Talk:Heathen

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I do not believe that any of these contributors have the Heathen religion themselves, which is the indigenous religion of Norway. I think this whole post is a horrible religious hate attack by another religion entirely. Please contact a Heathen Vitki to write up a better post right now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.9.82.140 (talk) 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Principle of least surprise
Huh? How is it less surprising to jump from heathen to paganism (an umbrella term) than to heathenry (a word more specific and more related)? -- nae'blis 14:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't that we should direct people away from information on a topic simply so they aren't surprised. Heathenry is simply about modern revivals of paganism in Germany.  The encyclopedic information that needs to be supplied for heathen is at paganism] so that is where it redirects.  The majority of times someone actually comes across the word "heathen" are from historical works.  It just isn't used much today.  To send this word to the page on a modern movement is very misleading.  It is more important to provide the most comprehensive article rather than it's closest linguistic relative IMHO.-- Birgitte§β  ʈ  Talk  17:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW You might also not that there was once an article here that was merged into paganism.-- Birgitte§β ʈ  Talk  17:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * see also Talk:Heathenry: that article itself needs disambiguation. "Heathenry" is an umbrella term, it is simply the English translation of "paganism". There happens to be an article on the term's meaning in UK neopaganism there at present, but that is problematic by the same principle. dab (&#5839;) 18:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * *scratches head* I'm still not sure I understand, but I must not be tracking debate on Wikipedia very well today (maybe it's lack of sleep); the section in Paganism on Heathenry is a paragraph long (admittedly, it's mostly about the old usage as of this writing), and refers you out... to the main article, Heathenry. But there's no rush on this edit, either one will get you there eventually, I just thought the direct link was simpler. Cheers. -- nae'blis 01:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * well, that's wrong then. we are looking at a discussion of the term "heathenry" in the "Terminology" section of Paganism. It Heathenry is linked as the main article there, this would imply that Heathenry is about the term itself, which it isn't. Imho, the proper way to do it is
 * move the present Heathenry to Heathenry (neopaganism) or something similar
 * make Heathenry a disambiguation page, linking Paganism and [[Heathenry (neopaganism)
 * redirect Heathen to Heathenry (the dab page). remove the main link to the dab page.
 * dab (&#5839;) 10:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Partial WP:HISTMERGE
As a result of the move over redirect, editions of Heathen between 2003 and 2005 have been restored to preserve attribution for content which has been merged to Paganism. Deryck C. 21:51, 16 October 2015 (UTC)