Talk:Heather Cook

"Former bishop" description?
It seems necessary to discuss and resolve the appropriate description of Cook in the first sentence of this article as some editors are insisting that she should now be referred to as a "former bishop". While I can understand why some editors want to do this, I am not convinced this is a strictly correct way of referring to her. While it is true that the Episcopal Church has both suspended her from her position and then deprived her of her status as an ordained person, I am not sure that this determines that she should now be described as a "former bishop" unless she is actually formally laicised ("defrocked"). Unless she is formally laicised or it is announced that she has permanently lost her ordained status without any possibility of this being restored then it would seem that there still remains the possibility, even if highly unlikely, of her official status as a bishop in the Episcopal Church being restored to her at some time in the future. This recently happened with another Episcopal bishop so it does not seem an impossibility. Other editors' views and / or clarifications on this are invited. Anglicanus (talk) 09:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It also happens that someone who has lost their ordained status in one church regains it in another church. This is another consideration in my opinion. So, maybe, one preferable way to word things at present is to say that Cook is a "former bishop of the Episcopal Church in the United States". I will be bold and make this change and see if anyone objects. Anglicanus (talk) 09:18, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * More accurately, she is a deposed bishop. She was “deprived of the right to exercise" what she received by ordination. See this source. Jonathunder (talk) 13:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this clarification. Differences in terminology between churches and countries can cause confusion. Do you know if such deposition is usually or always a permanent thing? Anglicanus (talk) 13:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Depositions can be (and have been) lifted. In such a case, the person is not re-ordained, but is restored to ministry. Jonathunder (talk) 14:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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