Talk:Heel-and-toe shifting

Wikify tag
Replaced - there is considerable scope for useful linking of unexplained terms. TerriersFan 23:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Then get on and link them rather than messing up a perfectly decent article with crappy tags. Jeez. SteveBaker 03:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Double clutching
I believe the Procedure section explains heel-toe double clutching. Its not necessary to release the clutch and then press it again if you're not double clutching. I could be wrong though. --74.67.152.103 05:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed - Double (de)clutching is when the clutch pedal is lifted for the throttle 'blip' in order to synchronise gearbox shaft speeds. "Heel and toe" can be used either during double declutching, or by just blipping the throttle with the clutch pedal pressed down. This is less mechanically sympathetic, but quicker and easier.

However, if performed correctly, a double clutch heel-and-toe will generally yield faster results even in a car with a synchronized transmission. - Deleted for lack of reference, and I just plain disagree with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.78.143 (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Toe-Heel (Alternative Heel-Toe Technique)
Don't many instructors frown upon using toe-heel (i.e. heel on brake, toe on gas)? Because of the lessening of the pressure on the brake pedal when going to actuate the throttle? Also, isn't it not advised to use the knee to modulate braking, since it does not have as much resolution as the ankle does for proper modulation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.46.144 (talk) 20:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

As for your instructor frowning, you would be correct. This article is regarding an advanced driving technique, not suitable nor  appropriate for the learner driver. Practice and use it after you got your licence and your instructor is not there looking.

As for the variations of braking while heel and toeing, let me put it this way: sitting in a chair, lift your right leg, turn the toe 20-30 degree inwards (towards the toes on the left leg), then try to hold your right toes stationary (brake) in space while wiggling you heel up and down and to the side (gas). You will find it is damn near impossible to keep the toes in one place. Now, lift your leg as before, but this time rotated the foot outwards, and keeping the heel stationary (brake) while wiggling the toes up and down (gas). Which one is easier and have more range? The former is conventional heel and toe, the later the alternative technique. For the former, that means the brake force will vary while you blip the gas, but in competition driving, the actions were of such short durations that it is tolerable and controllable for the sake of rev matching while braking.

Regarding knee flexing, in the context of using heel and toe here, it is apparently impossible to do it while your heel is resting on the floor as a pivot point. The whole leg is floated no matter what technique of heel and toe used. The only time i can contemplate a driver resting the heel on the floor and braking with the ball of the foot is on a relaxing cruise down the highway, and need to do some minor braking. Almost all driver will slam on the brake with the leg lifted off the floor in a panic, fast, sudden stop. Skepticus (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

high heels?
lol!

you're actually showing somebody doing this in high heels, like it's normal. damn you political correctness!

89.17.12.90 (talk) 22:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The thing that stands out immediately is that those are a man's legs. The photographer - who has been blocked for using multiple accounts to make death threats - is male. In fact the user seems to have made it his mission to upload lots of shots of his legs wearing those awful stockings to Wikimedia Commons, viz 2 3 4. I've been on Wikipedia for ages and I've seen this kind of thing before. User writes in deliberately bad pidgeon English in a way that's quite obvious deliberate; uploads rubbish; moans a lot; gets blocked; gets unblocked; gets blocked etc. It's a lot of wasted effort when simply blocking the user and nuking all of his contributions permanently would be quick and relatively painless. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 13:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)