Talk:Heimat

Hi.

I have tried to tidy-up this article (13 March 2007) and put some citations from references.

Please if you can improve the content or structure, get involved.

At this point, constructive input on structure would be good.

Thanks, Eddyholland 20:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

International law
Isn't that paragraph a little out of place. The heart of the article is, I take it, the German sense of belonging to a Heimat. What International law doctrines are attached to the word "Homeland" or "Heimat" seems a little off topic. 88888 23:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point, that paragraph (and most of them in my revised version) came from the original unstructured version of the Heimat wiki page. Therefore I edited and tidied it without removing it. However, it is not central to the Heimat topic. I will try to edit it down (and not have a separate paragraph section for that).

Thanks for the input

Eddyholland 13:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Nazis
The part on Heimat being a concept which rejects all things foreign and thus being susceptible to the Nazis needs to be removed and changed. Look at Celia Applegate's analysis of how the Nazis manipulated Heimat (Nation of Provincials). She argues, that Nazis essentially forced regions to be outward looking (in line with Nazi ideology). Thus the inward looking orientation and experiencing of the local was made impossible. Thus, the Nazi experience didn't win over the concept of Heimat, they took over the concept and drained it of all of its previous meaning. It is also worth pointing out that regional separatists were put into concentration camps. Afterwards, Heimat and regional identity would be used ot try to cut regions away from the national idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.10.179 (talk) 02:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Nazis Part 2
The section on 'Nazis' was written by a German speaker (comma before 'that' is fairly common among German speakers). There is a reasonable body of literature that has attempted to deal with the Nazi manipulation of Heimat (Google: Heimat und Nazionalismus), which the anonymous writer might to do well to consult.

'Heimat' has a set of meanings for German speakers, largely because it is a German word. 'Home' has a set of meanings for English speakers, largely because it is an English word. After twenty years of living in Germany, I can no longer describe Liverpool, my birth place, as 'home' except in an historically emotional sense. My 'home' is Germany because my family lives here, I work here and, more importantly, I pay taxes here. Pamour (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd like to hear the consensus German opinion on the Heimat of German Jews and the Heimat of German Turks. Then I'll judge for myself how the concept should be translated to English. 69.201.168.196 (talk) 20:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Use in Dutch
Hi, RU aware that Heimat is also a known notion in Dutch. Anybody knows that it is a german notion, but nobody reacts with "that is not a normal work to use when speaking or writing Dutch". Is that worth adding?Hvgard (talk) 15:59, 5 January 2017 (UTC)