Talk:Heinrich Czolbe

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Plagarism
Parts of this article appear to be plagarized without attribution from Nadeem Hussain's essay "Nietzsche's Positivism," European Journal of Philosophy 12:3 (2004): 326–368.

For example, from the Wikipedia entry:

"The only way to defeat the speculative philosophers, Czolbe argues, is to insist that sensory qualities are mechanically propagated through the nerves without any change (Czolbe 1855, 14; 1856, 15–16, 27–28). His view appears to be that qualitative properties such as colours or sounds are transmitted directly from the outside to the inside. The suggestion is that colours and sounds exist independently of the subject. They are not generated by the nerves, rather, they are transmitted to the inside of the brain by the nerves. Of course, Czolbe was not ignorant of wave theories of light or sound, but claimed that the wave particle already is the colour or sound, which has only to be transmitted to the right spot in the brain in order for us to be conscious of it. As Friedrich Albert Lange mockingly emphasizes, the sound waves somehow involve the experience of their sound in themselves already (Lange 1873–75, 2:111). Czolbe appears to bite this bullet, and accepts Hermann Lotze's description of his view, according to which "the sensible qualities of sensation are already completely present in the external stimuli, that from a red-radiating object a ready-made redness, from a sound source a melody, detaches itself in order to penetrate into us through the portals of the sense organs" (Czolbe 1856, 14). If this were the correct view of how the sense organs work, then, Czolbe claims, we would have an empirical account of knowledge that was not self-undermining."

And from Hussain's essay:

"The only way to defeat the speculative philosophers, Czolbe argues, is to insist that the sensory qualities are mechanically propagated through the nerves without any change. His view appears to be that qualitative properties such as colours or sounds are transmitted directly from the outside to the inside. The view is hard of course to wrap one’s mind around, but the suggestion is that qualia are out there in the external world and merely transmitted to the inside of the brain. They are not generated by the nerves. Czolbe was of course not ignorant of wave theories of light or sound but claimed that the wave particle in some way already is the qualia which has only to be transmitted to the right spot in the brain in order for us to be conscious of it—as Lange mockingly emphasizes, the sound waves somehow involve the experience of their sound in themselves already (II:111/II:291). Czolbe accepts Lotze’s description of his view which I quote here for its relative clarity. Czolbe claims that: "the sensible qualities of sensation are already completely present in the external stimuli, that from a red-radiating object a ready-made redness, from a sound source a melody, detaches itself in order to penetrate into us through the portals of the sense organs."

If this were the correct view of how the sense organs work, then, so Czolbeclaims, we would have an empirical account of knowledge that was not self-undermining."

--128.220.159.6 (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * And, based on the comment higher up this page, also from "Nietzsche's Positivism," European Journal of Philosophy 12:3 (2004): 326–368. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2016 (UTC)