Talk:Heinz Burt

Real name
Heinz' full name, throughout his life, was officially Heinz Burt. Someone keeps promoting a german surname, Schwarz, or Schwartz, through wikipedia. Also the city of birth (Detmold) is dubious. For a long time his proclaimed birth place was the non-existant "Hargen" (E-Kartoffel (talk) 11:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC))
 * I removed his supposed real name Schwarz. The one and only source to be found on the internet was the English Wikipedia and the name was introduced in 2012 by an IP address with a dubious reputation. By the way, Heinz' son is called Simon Burt, not Simon Schwarz. Sijtze Reurich (talk) 14:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * A colleague who knew him says his real name was George Burt. Can anyone confirm whether this was a middle name ? RGCorris (talk) 14:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Are they confusing him with George Bellamy (musician) who was also in The Tornados? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * FreeBMD has a Heinz G Burt marrying Dianne R Oram in Maldon in 1971, and marrying Julia C Moody in Southampton in 1979. If this was Heinz then his middle name may well have been George. RGCorris (talk) 15:21, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That looks promising. Well spotted. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC) p.s. I see that de:wiki has no source for date or place of birth.

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Requested move 13 April 2015

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The result of the move request was: Moved. EdJohnston (talk) 02:27, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Heinz (singer) → Heinz Burt – Although Heinz is his pen name, "Heinz Burt" is also fairly often used. Per WP:NCP, a surname "Burt" should substitute for the parenthetical word, "singer". Sources using the full name (I'm not including the subject's obituaries): Express, Vice.com's blog, The Telegraph, Daily Echo, North Jersey, Music Radar. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 04:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC) George Ho (talk) 05:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment With selective reference to one hit song:
 * "Just Like Eddie" "Heinz" got "About 379 results" in books while
 * "Just Like Eddie" "Heinz Burt" got "About 60 results" in books

News results are 10:1 actually 10 and 1

However with reference to band and label
 * Tornados Telstar "Heinz" got "About 269 results"
 * Tornados Telstar "Heinz Burt" impressively got "About 142 results" and so


 * Support as per WP:NCP and per being good enough for the likes of Oprah. GregKaye 13:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose His notability is derived from his time as a musician (not just as a singer BTW) and during that time he performed and released songs as "Heinz" only with no Burt. --Egghead06 (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:NATURAL: If it exists, choose an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title. No such user (talk) 20:01, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Although makes a valid point above, it's trumped by the excellent analysis of . Andrewa (talk) 05:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


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Heinz's period at Meek's flat and how Meek gained his shotgun
Not a big deal, but wanted to comment about this line:

Although he had lived briefly in Meek's flat, further disagreements over royalties saw him move out, leaving some possessions behind including a shotgun.

In the 1991 BBC Arena documentary about Meek (currently available on YouTube), Heinz said that he lived thee years at Meek's flat - I wouldn't consider that "brief". The shotgun was apparently left at the flat by mistake after a recording session because Burt didn't want to leave the shotgun in his car, I don't think left by mistake after his moving out of the flat.

Indieshack (talk) 02:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Tower 253
A minor point to be sure - the U.S. single release of Movin' In on Tower 253 has the song I'm Not A Bad Guy on the B side, but the label is printed as I'm Not A Bad Boy. Ronster76 (talk) 17:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I went in and moved Movin' In to the A side under US Singles. I have a copy of Tower 253; the side with Movin' In has a big letter A on the label, and the matrix codes show 60707 253 R-508.  the side with I'm Not A Bad Boy [sic] has no similar letter on the label, and matrix codes 60708 253-B R-509. Ronster76 (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)