Talk:Helen Brach

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Edofedinburgh 01:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

This case in light of Blakeley line of cases?
I just saw the Court TV version of this case which said that Bailey DID NOT plead to any count related to Ms. Brach's death but that he was sentenced to the maximum for the fraud counts he did plead to based on the judge finding by a preponderance of the evidence as a circumsntance in aggravation that he was so involved. This represents a process that has been squarely rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court in recent years in a number of cases such as Apprendi v. New Jersey, Blakely v. Washington and Cunningham v. California which stand for the precept that facts used in aggravation at sentencing must have been found by a jury to have occurred beyond a reasonable doubt or have been admitted by the defendant. Thus if Court TV's rendition of this case is accurate then Bailey has a strong case for relief in the higher courts.Tom Cod 20:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Horse murders article request for editors
Hello, all --

I realize that this is a distasteful subject to many in the horse field, especially among those with a love of show jumpers, but the John Edwards and Rielle Hunter affair currently in the news has opened up many, many questions on the subject of the late 20th century horse murders scandal. The reason for that, in case you don't know, is that Rielle Hunter was formerly Lisa Druck, whose father, James Druck conspired to have her beloved show jumper Henry the Hawk electrocuted to collect the insurance money on him. This tragedy formed the backgtound for a 1988 novel based on Lisa Druck's life, called Story of my Life by Jay McInerney. Later, in the early to mid 1990s, the scandal was exposed to the public through articles in the New York imes and Sports Illustrated, and then through a full-length book called "Hot Blood." An FBI investigation into the horse murders led to the conviction of a number of highly placed people in the show jumper and general equatrian sports world on charges of insuracne fraud.

When Rielle Hunter's background was probed, due to her affair with John Edwards, it turned out that she and her horse were prominent victims of the horse murder insurance scam. But in trying to link this information up to her bio article, it turned up that there is no article on the subject of the horse murders at Wikipedia, doubtless because the scandal occured before the development of the world wide web. There is an article on the murder of the millionairess Helen Brach whose death, in 1977, was also connected to the horse murder scandal. An article was just created todsay, but it is not comprehensive in scope and needs to be expanded greatly lest it be deleted.

I am looking for a few good editors who have the brackground to write a horse murders article, and to link it to the Helen Brach, show jumping, and Rielle Hunter articles. No need to reply to me -- if you are interested, you know what to do. I will try to help, also, as best i can, but the topic is far from my usual fild of writing, and i would prefer to see it handled by those with the greatest depth of knowledge on the subject.

I am posting this identical request to a number of horse-rleated talk pages, so you may see it more than once, for which i apologize in advance.

Sincerely, catherine yronwode Catherineyronwode (talk) 02:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC) nominate for deleteEguygabe 23:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eguygabe (talk • contribs)

Does anyone know where Helen had her summer home on the Lake?
We just brought a very unique house on a lake that was built in 1918. Local residence have passed on a rumor that this was once Helen Brach's lake house? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.102.193 (talk) 14:07, 5 January 2012 (UTC)