Talk:Helen Glover (Survivor contestant)

Nominated for deletion
She's a non-notable reality tv contestant. Daybreak87 (talk) 04:16, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * If she's non-notable, then why would I dream of horses accept the draft into mainspace? George Ho (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There are several cases of Wikipedia jumping the gun and declaring an article about a reality tv contestant to be noteworthy before a lack of coverage or attention proves that it is unnecessary. She has an article on Survivor's Fandom wiki which is already enough. https://survivor.fandom.com/wiki/Helen_Glover Daybreak87 (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Someone else already contested the PROD tag by simply removing it. George Ho (talk) 14:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Daybreak87, @George Ho: While Glover is right on the border of being notable, it wouldn't be appropriate to do a PROD deletion of an accepted AfC draft; you'd have to go through AfD, since PRODs are for situations where no one has or will object, and an AfC reviewer would object. Basically, PROD deletions are for dealing with overzealous eventualism that ends up with low-quality, abandoned articles. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 18:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * One of articles I created was PRODded, despite passing AfC, and I didn't contest the proposal. Rather I searched for other reliable sources but to no avail. I just allowed deletion of it. George Ho (talk) 20:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Ho That's more of a sign that Wikipedia not having enough volunteers; if an article passes AfC, it should really go through AfD, not PROD. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 20:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see WP:deletion policy or WP:PROD addressing appropriation of deletion proposals on pages that passed AfC from being PRODded. Even I was unable to find past discussions from WT:WPAFC, WT:PROD, WT:DELPOL, or WP:VPP about PRODding and/or allowing uncontested deletion of articles that passed AfC. (BTW, WP:NOTCOMPULSORY disallows users to demand more from others.) Maybe we need others' opinions on this, but where to discuss what you just said? George Ho (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Ho There probably isn't a specific policy. I'm inferring from the statement and assuming any article accepted from AfC would, in fact, have a controversial deletion. I'm not sure where you'd discuss this. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 21:36, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I took the matter about PRODding an AfC-approved article to another discussion. George Ho (talk) 03:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)