Talk:Helen Rollason/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Cloudz679 (talk · contribs) 15:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I will review this article. C679 15:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * some American English, where British English should be used. Some idioms, plus other issues, see below.
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * Per WP:FNNR, ""Bibliography" may be confused with the complete list of printed works by the subject of a biography ("Works" or "Publications")"
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * a) Fair Use Rationale for the non-free image appears to be incomplete b) Caption says "in 1993" and the comment on the file says "approximately 1993" and "circa 1993".
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * a) Fair Use Rationale for the non-free image appears to be incomplete b) Caption says "in 1993" and the comment on the file says "approximately 1993" and "circa 1993".
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:


 * "and on the children's programme Newsround during the 1980s" suggest "and of..."


 * "Her work on Grandstand proved popular with viewers and paved the way for other female sports presenters to follow in her footsteps." see WP:IDIOM.
 * Reworded.


 * Suggest "an award in her memory" is all linked, instead of just the first two words.


 * "It was while she was teaching PE that she met fellow teacher John Rollason, and the couple were married in 1980." This is a cleft sentence
 * Reworded.


 * "the Super Bowl XIX" don't believe it takes an article
 * Not quite sure what you mean here. There is an article for the event.


 * "which aired in 1985" - it took place in 1985 too!


 * "She was also responsible for bringing American football to UK audiences." the Super Bowl is already mentioned. This seems to be a needless re-hash of "She helped to bring American football to British screens" from fn2
 * Removed.


 * "Also in 1988, she provided coverage of that year's Summer Olympics, held in Seoul, for ITV." the wording here doesn't give sufficient credit - surely being involved in Olympics coverage was a much bigger deal than junior athletics
 * Changed to "Later on in 1988"


 * "Among her credits are" among her credits with the BBC are


 * "She was a champion of disability sport" same in the lead but "sports" - let's have consistency


 * I haven't seen the book referred to in fn18 but shouldn't Paralympics be capitalised?
 * ✅ I think it was printed in lower case, but as it's the title of an event it should be in upper case.


 * link North Middlesex Hospital


 * "paved the way", mentioned in the lead, is actually used in the Independent obituary
 * ✅, reworded it.


 * suggest "football" instead of "soccer" as this article uses British English


 * "footballer Geoff Thomas in 2005 for raising "more than £150,000 for the Leukaemia Research charity" by cycling, following his own battle with the disease" why is this in quotes?
 * ✅, but reworded in case it was a direct quote from somewhere.


 * "named for Rollason" suggest "named after", another case of British English (2x)

Thanks for reviewing this. Just a query about the Superbowl, but apart from that I think I've got everything else you mentioned. Let me know if I've missed anything and I'll take another look. Thanks once again. This is Paul (talk) 22:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * On hold for a period of seven days to address the issues. C679 19:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Good work, "article" which I referred to was "the", not Wikipedia article on the topic. 6b 6a remains an issue. One sentence now reads "Her work on Grandstand proved popular with viewers and opened up opportunities other female sports presenters to follow in her footsteps." - should be checked. There is still one "named for" to be changed (note the 2x in the original comment). C679 22:19, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Got them all now. This is Paul (talk) 22:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Prose and referencing now meets criteria. 6b 6a is still outstanding. In particular, the fair use rationale at the image page is not complete. There are empty sections in the template. Please deal with this. C679 07:02, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As the software I use makes addressing these things difficult, I'll need to get a bit of help on this one, so please bear with me for a while. If nothing can be done it'll probably be easier just to remove it. This is Paul (talk) 11:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅, with much thanks to We hope. This is Paul (talk) 14:40, 5 January 2015 (UTC)