Talk:Helena Megale Komnene

Not a Megale Komnene?
I've looked into the citations for this article, her purported father Basil of Trebizond, & her husband Bagrat V of Georgia, & I can't find any source, whether reliable or not, that asserts she was a princess of Trebizond -- except for the Royal Ark website, which provides no source for this information. Moreover, two reliable sources for the genealogy of Trebizond & Georgia of this peiod -- Jackson William's article "A Genealogy of the Grand Komnenoi of Trebizond" & Cyril Toumanoff's article in Traditio "The Fifiteenth-century Bagritids and the Institution of Collegial Sovereignty in Georgia" -- neither mention this assertion. I'm beginning to think this is just some bit of misinformation or a fringe theory that crept into Wikipedia. Removing that assertion, there is very little here to justify a separate article on Helena (Toumanoff confesses that except for the fact she died of plague in 1366, we know nothing about her), so I'm considering merging what's left of this article in the article on Bagrat V. -- llywrch (talk) 17:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

- This is wrong and such a person did not exist. The only source is from Charles Cawley's medieval lands family tree website. I have looked into this and concluded that it stems from a misreading of the Georgian Chronicle, confusing the wife of Bagrat V with the wife of Bagrat IV, who indeed was a Helena, daughter of a 'Greek' emperor Basil - Basil II the Byzantine emperor. Can someone with a Wikipedia user name delete this person, as she did not exist. 159.92.238.29 (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2017 (UTC)a@