Talk:Heliópolis

Is it a favela? Even if it is, isn't that just a value judgement that ought to be NPOV'd
I would be understandably be upset if someone called my home city or suburb a favela because I guess this term is pretty POV. Perhaps it would be more neutral to simply state that Heliopolis is a suburb or area within the Sao Paulo metropolis? It can be pointed out later in the article that Heliopolis is considered to be a favela. I feel like it's easy to accidentally introduce POV into Wikipedia when the locals aren't editing the articles about their city. Really to define a city by it's socio-econommic level is intrinsically POV. What do you all think? &mdash; Донама 02:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Heliópolis is not a favela, it's a suburb. It looks like a favela, but officialy is not, because the streets are in the official map of the city. Fsolda 13:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The coordinates are wrong, they do not lead to Sao Paulo, Brazil. Instead they lead to a place much more north. Someone please correct them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.74.70.77 (talk) 02:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "To date, it has the appearance of a favela, regardless of government recognition"
 * It's not that simple. Some parts of Heliópolis are similar to favelas, other parts are composed by housing complexes, not similar to regular favelas at all, and other parts even look like middle class neighborhoods. Calling "Heliópolis" as a whole of favela seems to be a mistake, I would agree. Dornicke (talk) 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)