Talk:Helldorado Days (Las Vegas)

Tombstone has its own Helldorado Days
Tombstone has its own Helldorado Days. See http://www.helldoradodays.com/. Is the term copyrighted or trademarked?
 * Don't know about the trademark status, but it likely is not an issue. Clearly it is not an issue in the encyclopedia.
 * It is now. Google "Helldorado Days" and you won't get Las Vegas first. S  B Harris 23:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move
"Helldorado Days" in Tombstone is better known, has been going on for longer, and is at the top of the Google search for this term. After all, Helldorado is the nickname for Tombstone, not Las Vegas. S B Harris 00:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge Neither article is so well developed that it stands out as sole claimant to the unadorned title. Both would improve from a merger. Bazj (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a very good idea. Both articles were just started two days ago and are about the same type of festival. Avoids a dab page. Station1 (talk) 18:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The articles are about two notable events. There is nothing in the policies or guidelines that suggests merging notable events that are not about the same event into one article.  Here, the suggestion seems to be solely based on the similar names.  In fact the dab guidelines say that hat notes may be preferred when there are only two as opposed to creating a dab page.  Vegaswikian (talk) 18:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not based solely on the names. Both articles start "Helldorado Days is a cowboy themed festival..." Both are annual events with parades. I think it's analogous to Mardi Gras where each event could have a section. Station1 (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Mardi Gras is a very specific event celebrated in different places at the same time for the same purpose. That is not the case here. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I should have also added that there is no need for a dab page. Hat notes are all that is needed. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That's only true if this move proposal is not adopted. If it is, there will be a need for a dab page. Station1 (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The only dab page that is needed is at Helldorado a redirect to that page should be the only change. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. If you check on google, '"Helldorado Days" tombstone' has 1,520 hits.  '"Helldorado Days" vegas' gets 5,190 hits.  Being older does not make something the primary topic.  So that part of the nomination fails to hold up.  Better know is again subjective and if true could help determine the primary topic, but again this assertion probably does not have an object source to prove the statement.  Being the top listing in Google is also meaningless. While I'm not positive, I believe that those entries are paid for.  If that is the case, then clearly that fact is of no value to this discussion. As to older, one started in 1929 and the other in 1934.  Does 5 years really matter?  Also one stopped being held for a while.  Does that really affect the primary topic?  The origin of the term does not affect these articles. So no proof that the current one is not the primary topic means it gets to stay. Vegaswikian1 (talk) 07:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I moved Helldorado Days to Helldorado Days (Las Vegas), and made plain Helldorado Days into a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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 * Have updated Helldorado Las Vegas and added correct date and historic background to today (July, 2022) Stoldal (talk) 00:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)