Talk:Hellenic Army

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The NATO grades for the Greek enlisted ranks should be as follows (courtesy of 'Uniforminsignia' Forum) at: http://forum.uniforminsignia.net/viewtopic.php?p=10787#10787

OR-1 Hoplites (Private, basic training trainee, no insignia)

OR-2 Ephedros Ypopsephios Vathmophoros (Recruit NCO candidate) OR-3 Ypodekaneas (3a) and Hoplites Vathmophoros (3b) (3a-Lance Corporal, 3b-Enlisted Private). (3a): In our tradition, Lance Corporal is not a rank but an honorary appointment, held only by draftees. (3b): Enlisted Professional Private. Finished basic training, special training in respect of his branch of service) OR-4 Ephedros Dekaneas (4a), Dekaneas Hoplites Vathmophoros, Dekaneas Pentaetous Ypochreosis, Dekaneas Ethelontees Monimis Theteas (4b) (4a-Draftee Corporal, 4b-Enlisted Corporal, Enlisted for five years Corporal, Long-term Enlisted Corporal). Draftee Corporal serves as leader of the smallest Army unit, principally; team leader. Enlisted Corporals (under the revised Army Regulations) command an individual tank, or a gun's crew in artillery. Draftee Corporal is subordinate to the Enlisted one. Enlisted Corporal is equivalent to the Senior Corporal's rank in other armies.

OR-5 Ephedros Lochias (5a), Lochias Pentaetous Ypochresosis, Lochias Ethelontees Monimis Theteas (5b), Monimos Lochias (5c) (5a-Draftee Sergeant, 5b-Enlisted for five years Sergeant, Long-term enlisted Sergeant, 5c-Career Sergeant). Draftee Sergeant is the backbone of the Greek Army. Sergeants are responsible for the individual training, personal appearance and cleanliness of their soldiers. He is the Drill Instructor, Drill Sergeant, or Military Training Instructor of the Army. Enlisted Sgts (according to the law 2936) are entrusted with the tasks of logistic and administrative support. Career Sergeant is the Non Commissioned Officers School graduate of the Hellenic Army. [I'm quoting from the official web-page of the Hellenic Army-Non Commissioned Officers School:].."With their graduation from the School, students are called Regular Sergeants and continue their training in the Schools of Arms-Corps to which they have been appointed, where they get specialized knowledge on their specialty. After completing a year of service they have the right to take part in exams for entering the Military Academy as candidates of a special category which consists of the 20% on the total number of candidates. The subjects of the exams are those taken in the National Level Examinations chosen by the Military Academy. The Non Commissioned Officers, after graduating the School, undertake the obligation of serving the Army for 5 years. They are promoted to the rank of the Warrant Officer after serving for 9-12 years in the ranks of Sergeant - 1st Sergeant - Master Sergeant. With their promotion to Second Lieutenants they are in the Officers lists and they continue to gain advancement. A sufficient number of Non Commissioned Officers is chosen, trained and staffs the Special Forces as paratroopers, commandos, marines and frogmen. Moreover, they can serve with the Army Aviation as helicopter pilots and mechanics or in a Research-Computing Office after being trained as Computer Programmers. Since NCOS belongs the higher level of education, its graduates can enroll in a Technological Educational Institution or University either by taking exams or not. NCOS graduates who obtain a University Degree are given the chance, after having reached the rank of Second Lieutenant, to advance to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel or even Colonel according to the new law on promotions of Non Commissioned Officers". OR-6 Monimos Epilochias (Career 1st Sergeant). 1st Sergeant assists the captain in the supervision of the company's operations and is responsible for the administrative work of the Company. He also holds the Quartermaster Sergeant's duties. Because the list of responsibilities make him the busiest man in the Army, it is in our tradition that in many cases, Draftee Sgts. keep the company descriptive book (this book listed the name, age, height, place of birth, and prior occupation of every enlisted man in the unit). When this is done, then the Draftee Sgt. is an "acting 1st. Sergeant". OR-7 Monimos Archilochias (Career Master Sergeant). The master sergeant serves as the principal NCO in staff elements at battalion and higher levels. OR-8 No equivalent

OR-9 Anthypaspistees (Warrant Officer). 'LONDON' 07/12/05

Freedom is Courage
"Ελεύ8ερον το Εύψυχον" means that the couraged people are free, not that the freedom is courage. That's because of the infinitive syntax, which in modern greeks, is not used.

Aptitude?
To the person that wrote this section: you are either misinformed, an idiot or a Turk. The Hellenic Army uses mainly state-of-the-art equipment nowadays. Tell me, in what way is Greece's Leopard 2A6 HEL "passed down equipment from the 1950s"? Furthermore, Greece's soldiers are well trained and participate in numerous NATO exercises. 210.49.157.84 11:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Aha - so why did you delete that paragraph from this article (understandable since unsourced and pov) and added the same exact passage to the Turkish Army article couple of minutes later ? :) Baristarim 01:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This paragraph will be deleted. I have no idea if it deserves to exist in other state's similar article, but here is at least laughable!! Citations shall be provided (if possible). Moreover, i do not think it is necessary to provide sources about the strength of the Greek army, Baris:). Greece, for well-known reasons, spends the most among the NATO members on defense. Re-adding an unsourced and pov paragraph cause it was previously inserted in another article, is something i prefer not to comment about. Hectorian 01:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I deleted it. Hectorian, if you look at the history of the article, it was not me who added it - I only came across it following the contributions list of the user who edited the Turkish army article - now I have this article on my watchlist. Besides - I would like to point out a very subtle point you raised: "the comparision with the Uzbek Navy" - which betrays the fact that it was only added for trolling purposes in the first place :) Baristarim 01:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * U are right. I did not check the history. Good job in reverted the paragraph (i would had done this anyways:)...). Hectorian 02:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries... Baristarim 02:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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I think there is an error...
In history section: "Gulf War". I think that isn't accurate: Only naval forces from Greece have used in this war. And perhaps some AWAC crews from airforce. Please confitm or correct this. --Vchorozopoulos (talk) 03:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You are right, I fixed it. Also I believe that War on Terrorism should be deleted. Sv1xv (talk) 05:08, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

--Vchorozopoulos (talk) 22:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a war that is missing: The Turkish invasion to Cyprus: ELDYK and a greek commando section took place in these battles.
 * And there some greek peace forces in Bosnia and Kosovo. A few years ago there were also in FYROM and Albania (Tetovo crisis) and in Somalia...

New source
You can find some regiment emblems here:source Catlemur (talk) 21:43, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Conscripts or reserves?
The statement "During a mobilization the amount of conscripts may exceed 180,000" is ambiguous. Is this a reference to the number of reserves (which the number suggests, but the name does not), or the number of conscripts in service at any one time?Royalcourtier (talk) 02:25, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

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