Talk:Hellenistic astrology

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Does the article require cleanup? (In the direction of ==Endnotes==?)100110100 09:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Western astrology vs. Hellenistic astrology
While the information is somewhat different, it seems like these two pages are actually describing the same thing.
 * They're two different traditions. There are quite a few differences between the two. Sam 04:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm still having trouble seeing them. I've put in a section so this can be explained, as I don't think I'm the only one with this issue --Zenten 20:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hellenistic period
This article does not mention Marcus Manilius, Claudius Ptolemy, or Julius Firmicus Maternus, who wrote important astrological texts that have survived. It is possible that all three are considered to have lived after the end of the Hellenistic period. Manilius was know to have been a Stoic, and when I get some time I will add some information to the article about the importance of astrology to the Stoic school of philosophy. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 12:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Religion
The development of Hellenistic astrology into a kind of fatalistic pseudo-religion should be mentioned.... AnonMoos (talk) 23:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that Astrology in Hellenistic Egypt be merged into Hellenistic astrology. A proposal tag was already put on that page in January 2011, but never discussed or completed. I think that the content in the Astrology in Hellenistic Egypt article can easily be explained in the context of Hellenistic astrology, and the Hellenistic astrology article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Astrology in Hellenistic Egypt will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. MakeSense64 (talk) 11:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * just do it :) 213.55.131.17 (talk) 12:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I support merging Astrology in Hellenistic Egypt into the article Hellenistic astrology. There isn't really a good reason to have "astrology in Hellenistic Egypt" as a separate article.  You might perhaps consider making it a subsection within the article on Hellenistic astrology.  --Chris Brennan (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree. Dougweller (talk) 14:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Agree.  Peter S Strempel  &#124;  Talk   01:19, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect. VanIsaacWS 00:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I've copied over all the material from the Astrology in Hellenistic Egypt page and merged it into this  Zac   Δ talk! 10:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Juvenal 'quote'
In the 'Astrology in Rome' section a quotation is given from Juvenal: 'there are people who cannot appear in public, dine or bathe, without having first consulted an ephemeris'. First, it's annoying that no citation is provided. Second, this is apparently not a quote at all, but a paraphrase of *Satires* VI.569–584: Remember always to avoid encountering the kind of woman With a dog-eared almanac [ephemeris] in her hands, as if it were an amber Worry-bead, who no longer seeks consultations but gives them, Who won’t follow her husband to camp, or back home again, If Thrasyllus the astrologer’s calculations advise against it. When she wishes to take a ride to the first milestone, she’ll find The best time to travel in her book; if her eye-corner itches When rubbed, she checks her horoscope before seeking relief; If she’s lying in bed ill, the hour appropriate for taking food, It seems, must be one prescribed by that Egyptian, Petosiris.82.13.83.51 (talk) 19:02, 7 May 2023 (UTC)