Talk:Hellhole (cave)

Requested move 20 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 09:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Hellhole → Hellhole (cave) – Not the primary topic 67.149.246.163 (talk) 03:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC) ＊＊It's actually in West Virginia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.246.163 (talk) 05:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, and redirect to Hell hole In ictu oculi (talk) 12:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support moving and redirecting to Hell Hole; a particular cave in Virginia isn't what I would expect when searching this word. – Sonicwave talk  00:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support - I see no good reason not to. There are probably a couple dozen hell holes in the U.S.A and more elsewhere. It may be prudent to name it Hellhole (West Virginia cave), because right in my own home state, there is a Hellhole, and perhaps someday it will have an article if this Oregon Field Guide video published by OPB has anything to say about it. I see In ictu oculi's link to the disambiguation page lists a couple other hellhole caves right off the bat - no pun intended. There eventually will be several "Hellhole (cave)" articles, and now I am considering making one for the cave I mentioned previously. Leitmotiv (talk) 03:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Support and redirect to Hell Hole. If there is another article of a cave made, it would be non controversial to move again to a more precise disambiguation and redirect Hellhole (cave) to the disambiguation also.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Strongly support as disambiguation is clearly needed here. Doug Mehus (talk) 01:28, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


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Cave depth
This article provides contradictory facts on what the depth of the cave is. In the body of the article, the depth is listed as 518 feet; this fact is sourced and I have found more online to back it up. The infobox lists the depth as 737 feet. I was ready to delete and replace this from the infobox, but instead I found sources online that back up this depth. How can this be? Why are there contrasting numbers for how deep the cave is?

One possible explanation I have found is that there appears to be more than one cave called Hellhole. Some sources spell the cave "Hellhole" while others spell it "Hell Hole". This semantic issue could be reflective of genuinely different caves. My entire reason for coming to this article was a claustrophobia-inducing YouTube video of a cave called Hellhole, but researching this makes me think that they are not the same cave at all. There appears to be more than one cave: where do we go from here, and how deep is the cave depicted in the article? PickleG13 (talk) 19:00, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Re the second point: Hell Hole Cave (the one in that video) is in Wilder Ranch State Park, Santa Cruz, California. This Hellhole cave is in West Virginia.
 * I've added a Template:Distinguish to point that out to future visitors to this page. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 21:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)