Talk:Helsinki University of Technology

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Added a list of notable (by Wikipedia criteria, plus a few people with articles in fi.wikipedia or otherwise general notability) people associated with TKK. Feel free to expand - like with universities in general, association in this case means the person has either graduated from TKK (so no honorary degrees) or held a permanent or long-term (no short visits or sabbathicals) research and/or teaching position. Brennhaut (talk) 11:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the article by removing the (in my opinion, unencyclopedic) lists of departments and degree programmes. If anyone sees such lists as necessary, I'd suggest a separate list article for them in order to not clutter up the main TKK article. The part on research and teaching could use expanding, if somebody wishes to contribute. Brennhaut (talk) 13:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Personally i think a list of degree programs is very encyclopedic indeed. But yes it was ab it prominent in the article. I'll leave it to you - including the option of leaving it as it is. Gillis (talk) 21:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Although I cleaned up the section, I still disagree with including a full list of the sähkö labs. Such lists are unencyclopedic. --Vuo 10:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice clean up work! Yeah i agree, there could be a separate article such as "list of labs at TKK" containing all the labs available, just having the sähkö ones is wrong, especially as sähkö is not superior to many other programmes study and research at TKK, which the article gives the feeling of. The main article could contain the list of departments though. Maybe even the centres of excellence could even make it into the main article(?)
 * cheers Gillis 20:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

TKK history
I think we should write a more comprehensive history here. The history of TKK reflects the whole history of Finnish engineering profession. Especially the improvement of research activities in 1950's should be brought out. The work of Professor Laurila and Academician Jauho was instrumental in this. Another point which should be mentioned in the section is the relation of language-strife and other political strives about the nature of engingeering education. --MPorciusCato 10:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Faculty vs. department
The article tells currently that there are twelve faculties, but those are not really faculties and they are called departments ('osasto' in Finnish) by the university. One could say there is currently only one faculty, faculty of science. As the matter of fact, the university is considering a large organisational change, where the university would be divided into three faculties, each having several departments, correlating with the departments in other universities, which are called 'laitos' in Finnish (the current departments are somewhat larger than departments of other universities). The new system will probably be in effect from the start of 2008. --Elmo Allen 19:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Otaniemi - the only campus?
Is Otaniemi the only campus in Finland? At least Tampere University of Technology has its premises and the student housing all in the same area. How do you define campus? --MPorciusCato (talk) 17:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

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Rivarly
Which is the better university of technology in Finland for academic researchers and/or the students: Helsinki or Tampere? 82.131.210.162 (talk) 14:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I doubt anyone really thinks TKK would not be the premiere university of technology in Finland. So go troll elsewhere ;) Gillis (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Entrepreneurship in TKK?
User:130.233.238.145 added the following, which I removed: ''Traditionally TKK has not been very entrepreneurial. The graduates have been employed mainly by bigger Finnish companies such as Nokia, ABB, Kone etc. The only notable entrepreneur from TKK is a first drop-out, but then later graduated Risto Siilasmaa. The only student society promoting entrepreneurship is currently Aalto Entrepreneurship Society (AES). The students at TKK can even serve as board members in AES.

For many reasons, I do not think this is a notable opinion. First, the facts are clearly wrong. In addition to Risto Siilasmaa, hundreds of TKK graduates are entrepreneurs, that is, business-owners. According to the yearly review of magazine Tekniikka and Talous, about ½ of the CEOs of the Finnish public corporations are diplomi-insinööris, the plurality of them TKK graduates. The idea of TKK not "being very entrepreneurial" is very clearly an opinion, and should be referred to a notable person holding that opinion.

The mention of a student society AES is laughable. The "society" in question is less than a year old and it does not merit a mention in the article about the whole university. (No other minor club is mentioned, either.) In a 15,000-student-university with long and lively student traditions, a club that has organized five student events (one attended by 200 students, claims the club) during its whole existence is a passing, unremarkable phenomenon. If the club will have, in the future, an impact on the university as a whole, it should be mentioned in the article, however. --MPorciusCato (talk) 16:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Master of Science in Technology?
What is the right translation of the master's degree? At least my transcript of completed courses calls the degree "Master of Science in Technology" - no mention of engineering of any kind... --Maaria 17:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * According to the page 2226 of the Appendix of the Government Decree on University Degrees, you are correct. --MPorciusCato (talk) 18:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move as the discussion has reached a unanimous result. Stadscykel (talk) 17:24, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Aalto University School of Science and Technology → Helsinki University of Technology – Aalto University School of Science and Technology was an interim name of the university which existed only one year before being disbanded. The original name is more notable from historical and encyclopedic viewpoint. Stadscykel (talk) 15:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Yes, it behooves us to use the most recognizable name. It's unlikely that its last name was around long enough to stick. --BDD (talk) 17:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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