Talk:Henk Stallinga

The Ellinoor Bergvelt (1996) reference
The data from the Ellinoor Bergvelt (1996) has been altered here, which has been undone and change baack today.


 * from: ...the cafeteria of the MoMa was decorated with work of Henk Stallinga, Piet Hein Eek, and Theo en Matthijs van Cruijsen.
 * to: ... the cafeteria of the MoMa was installed with work of Henk Stallinga,Joep van Lieshout, and others

To determine if this is correct, I checked the original text of Bergvelt (1996, p.433). As far as I can determine p. 343 starts with:
 * ... design mag zijn morele verplichtingen niet verzaken. Een produkt dat in termen van gebruiksnut of mode de tijd niet kan trotseren, betekent een cynisch misbruik van middelen en een wreed bedrog van de consument.. ... Wij designers zijn verantwoordelijk voor het behoud van de geest en de kwaliteit van het toneel waarop het dagelijkse leven zich afspeelt. De Nederlandse ontwerpers die in 1993 onder de verzamelnaam Droog Design werden gepresenteerd op de meubelbeurs in Milaan lijken zich verwant te voelen aan zijn benadering, al zijn ze uiterst voorzichtig met het doen van ideologisch getinte uitspraken. Het gemeenschappelijke element in deze produkten is de nuchtere, 'droge' uitwerking van de ideeën. Decoratie en overdadige vormen ontbreken. Hoewel de milieuproblematiek geen doorslaggevend motief is, speelt de afkeer van al te gelikte, al te overvloedige en consumptieve vormgeving zeker een rol bij deze ontwerpen. Tejo Remy (1960), een van de ontwerpers, heeft daar een uitgesproken mening over. 'Ik geef niet om vorm, ik wil niet vormgeven', is zijn uitgangspunt." De reacties in de internationale designwereld waren lovend...
 * Ellinoor Bergvelt. Van neorenaissance tot postmodernisme: hondervijfentwintig jaar Nederlandse interieurs, 1870-1995. Uitgeverij 010, 1996. p. 343.

And it continues with:
 * Het café van het Museum of Modern Art in New York werd ter gelegenheid van de Mondriaanexpositie in oktober 1995 door Ontwerpbureau Opera ingericht met werk van Henk Stallinga (1962), Piet Hein Eek (1967), Theo en Matthijs van Cruijsen, (1968), Tejo Remy, Rody Graumans (1968) en Joep van Lieshout (1963). Opera maakte van twee tafeltjes door J.J.P. Oud (1890-1963) ontworpen voor café de Unie, een nieuw tafeltje door bovenblad en onderstel te combineren. Samen met de bar van beeldend kunstenaar Joep van Lieshout, de '85- lamp' lampen van Rody Graumans en de melkflessenlampen van niet-vormgever Tejo Remy wered een hybride, postmodern interieur gemaakt, dat volgens de New York Times de esthetiek van Mondriaan in ere houdt.
 * Ellinoor Bergvelt. Van neorenaissance tot postmodernisme: hondervijfentwintig jaar Nederlandse interieurs, 1870-1995. Uitgeverij 010, 1996. p. 343.

It seems both statements were right and incomplete. -- Mdd (talk) 12:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Listing of award
This article could/should contain a listing of awards, preferable with the appropriate references.

Now the stallinga.nl website lists the following awards
 * ICFF Editors Awards, New York 2005
 * Good Design Award, Japan 2004
 * ICFF Editors Awards, New York 2002
 * Best Dutch Bookdesign 2000 (In cooperation with graphic designer Hans Wolbers)
 * Design Plus Award, Germany 1999
 * The Baden-Wurttemberg International Design Award 1999
 * Effie Award 1999

The Korean webside Beyond common ideas Henk Stallinga, which seem to originate from an article in Internia & Deco (http://www.internidecor.com/ ) give a similar listing

-- Mdd (talk) 22:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * 1997 Design Plus, Frankfurt, Germany
 * 1999 The Baden-Wurttemberg International Design Award, Germany
 * 2000 Best Dutch Book Design, The Netherlands
 * 2002 International Editors Award Accessories, New York, US
 * 2004 Good Design Award, Tokyo, Japan
 * 2005 International Editors Award Accessories, New York, US

Searching for more source
Searching for more source, I could find some confirmation, and some other interesting quotes from more reliable source:


 * EUROPEAN ENGINEERING AWARD SINCE 1998 DESIGNER: HENK STALLINGA MATERIALS: SILVER-PLATED METAL 8"H x4" DIAM.. 2.5 LBS. Young Dutch design lion Henk Stallinga is perhaps best known on these shores for his Blister Lamps, formerly hanging in the Museum of Modern Art's Garden Cafe. "The field of award design is still a virgin one," he says, as if he intends to violate it. For this award, which is given out every other year, Stallinga devised a rather distracting trophy, which is in effect an optical illusion. It is crafted from a single length of wire that is bent and twisted in the shape of a modified S-curve. The vertical wire represents one half of the typical trophy's silhouette. The award revolves on a motorized base, its speed of rotation creating the appearance of a three-dimensional object. If A maquette for one of Calder's stabiles— an elephant rendered abstractly in the late American master's signature style— the model was purchased originally from a New York City gallery...
 * Metropolis. Vol. 20, Nr. 4-6. (2000) p. 76


 * Vanaf deze maand tot en met september vinden er in New York een flink aantal evenementen plaats van Nederlands design. Het Nederlandse Consulaat heeft speciaal hiervoor een website gemaakt die informeert over alle activiteiten van Nederlands design en architectuur in de Verenigde Staten. Afgelopen week nam een aantal Nederlandse ontwerpers deel aan de International Contemporary Furniture Fair (ICFF). De ontwerper Henk Stallinga won afgelopen zondag de ICFF Editors Award als beste internationale accessoire designer...
 * "Dutch design New York" in: ARCHITECTURE, INTERIOR AND DESIGN 23 may 2002 / Editorial office, (online)


 * Stallinga, Henk (1962- ) Dutch designer. Biography Stallinga manufacturer and markets his own-design products through his eponymous firm, established in 1993. and designs for others; is also an active architect and interior designer, including 1997 interior of ...
 * Laurence King (2004) The design encyclopedia p. 704


 * Everything is possible In the world of award-winning Dutch designer Henk Stallinga. A sponge can become a vase, a business card can be used as a knife and fork, and almost anything can become a clock, a chair, an electric light. It's a familiar world, almost logical, but not quite. If museums exist to present objects that will stimulate us to thought, then this inspiring collection of Stallinga's work is a museum in itself. These objects appeal to our cognitive senses and have so much to say indirectly about our world that they give us a glimpse of truth. They subvert the basic tenet of 'form follows function' by discovering, within iconic forms, new functions that are totally unrelated to the original purpose.
 * Henk Stallinga, Murray Moss, Annemarie Galani, Erik Viskil (200) Stallinga: This Is Our Logo BIS Publishers, 2000 - 128 pages


 * Henk Stallinga — An objector to the collective nature of Droog Design, Henk Stallinga is most likely the "driest" designer of them all, taking everyday objects, giving them a slight twist.
 * Aaron Betsky, Adam Eeuwens (2004)  False flat: why Dutch design is so good]. Phaidon, 1 sep. 2004. p. 57 (online)

-- Mdd (talk) 22:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Development of article and CIO tag added
The start and further development is a typical example of an artist and his design office to use Wikipedia as promotion, and thereby more or less mirror their own website. A summary


 * 1) The first version in 2013 and the current 2019 version show great similarity. It tells the story of the artist who on his own graduated, received international recognition and got his work in international collections
 * 2) The story about how and with whom the artist took of has been added and reinstalled by me, see here but has been removed again.
 * 3) Suggestions here on this talk page and on the user:Silodam talk page have remained unanswered.

Although I very much appreciate the cooperation with every writer here, the recurring of events here further steps need to be taken. Therefore I started with a COI tag. I do think there is also a WP:OWN problem here.-- Mdd (talk) 08:58, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Content is key. Could you please advise on what is wrong with the content on current page? this page has not been touched by Silodam for a long time..
 * You earlier suggestions were answered and acted upon; no more contributions from Silodam.
 * so why this sudden CIO tag?


 * I contributed/elaborated to your contribution or notion of 'industrial designer':
 * Stallinga is a multidisciplinary artist (installation, movement, sound, light, sculpture etc.)
 * Stallinga was never formally educated as an industrial engineer/designer at university. Nevertheless, his studio worked for the industry in the mid-2000s'. this is where I placed your references/sources from louiskalff etc.


 * Please note there are quite some sources from recent newspapers that support the notion of Stallinga's work as contemporary installation contemporary artist


 * maybe you could use these sources? (see below)


 * https://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/wiens-kunstszene-viennacontemporary-schnaeppchen-aus-ostmitteleuropa/25064202.html?fbclid=IwAR2O40MaAJD58fZAEZt6JBYRBaox2Hxl4KKC08SCyD7JhWUVH31IyY7yGAo
 * https://www.diepresse.com/5697797/neue-formate-alte-starken?fbclid=IwAR3jbX4LBTOiSH6y1PfTGjPHZK2Uysf2G6N5R4GquWpm_KV22CWOLlhb6yI
 * https://www.lequotidiendelart.com/articles/16105-vienne-le-prochain-berlin.html
 * https://kubaparis.com/whatspace-hardspace/
 * https://www.volkskrant.nl/cultuur-media/de-tentoonstelling-one-way-ticket-to-mars-doet-vooral-verlangen-naar-onze-eigen-aarde~baac2639/
 * https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/10/15/de-aarde-gaat-eraan-dan-maar-naar-mars-a3976803?fbclid=IwAR3M27X1vEBC4CA1nl4aK2lNtkuL8UFo4Bxy47-j3nVwsjhF05euMCiaa2Y


 * Please note being close to the subject does not necessarily mean it is not correct or unjust, moreover there is more accurate information available. I do agree however it needs close attention. Therefor we decided not to contribute on the wiki page anymore (other then responding to spelling, language and more formal inaccuracies from others) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silodam (talk • contribs) 13:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Silodam in this situation I would advice you to restrain yourself to commenting on the talk page, and wait until someone responds, or ask some user on its talk page as you did. Restoring the initial situation without doing so, makes things worse. If this continues I have to report this to some kind of notice board, and this can get you blocked here.


 * I have quite some experience here on Wikipedia, and have tried to give you an example of how to proceed. I cannot give you a complete course any time any where. We have had a similar discussion on the Dutch Wikipedia where you dropped out. This is not working. The best thing to do is find a good example on the English Wikipedia and follow the instructions of more experienced users. -- Mdd (talk) 22:50, 24 October 2019 (UTC)