Talk:Henry Cabot Lodge

Paficist and punching in the face.
How can a paficist punch someone in the face?

Maybe a citation would be a good idea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.189.132.79 (talk) 08:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Broken Links
Seriously guys fix your links--Peace237 22:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

incomprehensible sentence
In 1901 Henry Cabot Lodge proposed a Bill to the senate that would ban the use of alcohol to minorites.


 * What on earth does this mean? john k 21:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

If you'll read the line again - here, I'll just paste the whole paragraph: In 1901, Henry Cabot Lodge proposed a bill in the Senate that would ban the use of alcohol to minors. He was one of four Republicans to rotate in the office of Senate president pro tempore from 1911-1913, holding the seat for just one day.

As you can see, it's "minors" Marcopolo27 14:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Which degree from Harvard?
In 1876 was he the first person to get a PhD in History from Harvard, or was it a Political Science degree as the Trivia section alleges?

24.136.27.75 17:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Lodge as imperialist in this article
Bio section states: "he was a proponent of imperialism (see Lodge Committee for further explanation). " however no further explanation exists there - only repeated use of the label. Marcopolo27 14:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Henry Cabot Lodge supported the invasion of the Phillipines in the Phillipine-American War. There were what was called Imperialists (those who supported the war) and Anti-imperialists (those who did not)--may historians use these terms. Travb (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia article, not a historical treatise - as such, the fact that many historians use the term imperialist and its antithesis is irrelevant. The article should be able to stand alone without further elaboration. The use of a label (pacifist, war-monger, imperialist, nationalist) in the description of a historical figure requires elaboration in order for it to add meaning to the article and for the article to be useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcopolo27 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Citation on Racial Beliefs
The article contains the following statement:
 * Throughout his career, Lodge would be a vocal proponent of the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon race.

For support, it cited the web page: PBS - American Experience: Woodrow Wilson | People. However, that page does not in any way support the claim, so I replaced the citation with. Does anyone know of any source that supports this?

While Lodge certainly supported restrictions on immigration, particularly from countries other than England and Ireland, it is my impression that it was based more on society and government, rather than race.

-- JPMcGrath 18:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Schriftgiesser's biography (The Gentleman From Massachusetts, 1944) quotes a speech made by Lodge on March 16, 1896 in which he refers to the danger of "changing the quality of our race...through the wholesale infusion of races...wholly alien to ours". (http://www.archive.org/stream/gentlemanfrommas001537mbp/gentlemanfrommas001537mbp_djvu.txt, p.117)I am not sure this is sufficient to justify the assertion above. Schriftgiesser was no friend of Lodge, and he would have included additional racist statements by Lodge if he knew of them.

-- Jeff C., 23:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Immigration section
The current version of the Immigration section may be misleading. It starts by euphemistically describing his concerns about immigrants' education level and so forth, and ends with his thoughts on race (which I tacked on, rather than rewrite). I must say I find it kind of funny that the euphemistic version hasn't been challenged even though it doesn't have any inline citations, and yet the original statement that he was a racist was challenged, as though it were somehow not totally predictable that an old-money Boston WASP in the 19th century believed some races were inferior. Of course he did. (I'm sure he despised the Irish, too, and Catholics in general; it would be weird if he didn't.) Racism was not his only reason for supporting immigration restrictions, but it was certainly a factor.

It's also overlong, with some unneeded (and uncited) quotes and redundant text. I'd like to propose the following rewrite:--MopTop (talk) 20:13, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * just doing it --MopTop (talk) 14:26, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Wife
His wife, Anna Cabot Mills, died in 1915.

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