Talk:Henry Cronjager

Adjectives
As per consensus amongst various guidelines (e.g.  Onel 5969  TT me 02:57, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I recently removed this term and also reverted when logged out; sorry about not being logged in when I did so. I see that this has been a bone of contention on the page for some time. As I noted in the edit summary, WP:V applies to this term, which I take to be WP:PEACOCK; that someone is a pioneer is a value judgment and not a matter of fact. We can attribute statements to people who called him a pioneer, but it's not justifiable merely to anoint him a pioneer, and that must be backed with appropriate sourcing. Chubbles (talk) 17:30, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. Pioneer: "a person or group that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity or a new method or technical development". Being the first cinematographer at two two major film studios, which is cited, definitely qualifies as a pioneer.  It's not subjective, but an accurate description.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:18, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Describing him as the first cinematographer at two early film studios is a neutral description that is entirely appropriate to put in the lede. It does the actual work of explaining what you mean by "pioneer" without using the value-laden term. Chubbles (talk) 23:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)