Talk:Heracles

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2023
CHANGE: “…referred to as the Pillars of Hercules/ Heracles, owing to the story that he …”

TO: “… referred to as the Pillars of Melquart (the Phoenician God on whom Greeks based Heracles), then later called the Pillars of Heracles-Melquart, then Pillars of Hercules, owing to the story that he …”

ALSO ADD SENTENCE TO THIS SECTION: “The Pillars are also proximate to the 3 remaining Temples of Melquart near the Phoenician-founded city of Gades (Cadiz, Spain).

SOURCE: https://www.worldhistory.org/Melqart/ 174.48.231.224 (talk) 01:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: but added note to § cult. Your source suggests that Heracles was syncretised with Melquart, not based on him, and only speculates about the pillars. small jars 14:22, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

incorrect link
Under lovers, the hyperlink for aphra goes to the genus of moths, this should be changed to the person in the mythology AD Vortigern (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Link removed, since no such page for the mythological figure seems to exist. – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Change image
I don't want the statue to be changed, but I want the image to be changed. The current one isn't good enough. It's facing to the side, so I can barely see him. I think that File:Herakles Farnese MAN Napoli Inv6001 n01.jpg will work better. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 17:38, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Wait, no, it should be File:Landsdowne Herakles.jpg as the current image is Hercules, not Heracles. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 18:07, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Michael Aurel Ghost_Cacus (talk) 18:07, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you have pinged me specifically, but the proposed image is not an improvement. The figure is tilted to the left, and the glare on the surface behind the statue is distracting. Also, both statues are Roman. Whether or not the newly inserted version of the Farnese Hercules is an improvement is another question. – Michael Aurel (talk) 01:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I pinged you randomly (I needed a Greek mythology editor, so I chose you randomly). It literally says that it's an image of Hercules, not Heracles on the page. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 01:40, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, well, if you have a Greek depiction of Heracles in mind, you can suggest it here for other editors to consider; I don't feel particularly strongly on the matter. The above image was not a good one, though. – Michael Aurel (talk) 04:47, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The Landsdowne or Farnese? Ghost_Cacus (talk) 15:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The former, which is, in contrast to the Farnese Hercules, not considered to be a copy of a particular Greek original. – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The Farnese Hercules is a copy of a Greek statue of Heracles; it's fine. It's totally irrelevant that on its rediscovery in 1546, it was called a "Hercules"; at that time and well into the nineteenth century, Latin names were used indiscriminately for both Greek and Roman gods and heroes. NebY (talk) 15:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree. Paul August &#9742; 17:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I would be in favour of switching to that image. The background of the current picture, particularly the bright patch in the top right-hand corner, is distracting. The base of the statue also seems to be given undue prominence. – Michael Aurel (talk) 14:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree. The current image is also too far away from the camera. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 16:41, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair points. Both would be resolved by using the image from the Farnese Hercules article: File:Herakles_Farnese_MAN_Napoli_Inv6001_n01.jpg Furius (talk) 23:24, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes (I believe that was the image being suggested). – Michael Aurel (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Origins? Greeks views
Actually for Greek historians like Herodotus and Diodorus Heraclius was of Egyptian descent Damn that wasn't even mentioned in the article? 105.196.244.114 (talk) 07:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Edit request
Please add a hatnote to handle the incoming redirect

Please add

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