Talk:Herb Alpert

Tijuana Brass
Shouldn't the Tijuana Brass have its own article? -24.149.203.34 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

"Originally the Tijuana Brass was just Alpert overdubbing his own trumpet, slightly out of sync." This quote is bizarre. How were the drums, bass, and guitar, for instance "just Alpert overdubbing his own trumpet"? And out of sync? Citation please, or I will deleted this sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 13:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

A documentary called Legends:Herb Alpert Tijuana, shown on BBC4 on 17th Sept 2010, includes a clip showing Herb Alpert describing his band as consisting of four lasagnes, two bagels and an American cheese sandwich. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.220.18 (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

In the original article
In the original article, Alpert was listed as having co-authored "Only Sixteen." Since he had nothing to do with writing that song, I have removed that reference. Rich 21:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The "Whipped Cream" album cover
I'd like to see the image of the 'Whipped Cream' cover placed back in the article. By far, it is Tijuana Brass's most famous image, and the article refers to it. I feel it is more important than a second image of Alpert.


 * I could not agree more. That cover was quite significant at the time (to both the public and Alpert's career). I can't imagine why it was removed......


 * I'm old enough to remember it (my mom had the album). I guess that helps. :-)


 * --angrykeyboarder (a/k/a:Scott)


 * Replaced it.  Tijuana Brass E@ 17:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, folks, but there seems to be a whole army of morons out there who are determined to wipe out all images illustrating Wikipedia that they don't like. I've had nasty encounters with a couple of those (for instance: User:Aspects, a true menace) and I can tell you it's a lost battle. Being basically useless people, they have all the time in the world to pursue their destructive work -- and still get rewarded for it! My condolences. --AVM (talk) 03:40, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Herb Alpert Guinness Record broken by Led Zeppelin in 1975 ?
In the Section titled "The Tijuana Brass Years", it states:

"That same year, the Guinness Book of World Records recognized that Alpert set a new record by placing five albums simultaneously on the Billboard Pop Album Chart, an accomplishment that has never been repeated."

But, in the main entry for Led Zeppelin, in the Section titled "Physical Graffiti", is states:

"Shortly after the release of Physical Graffiti, all previous Led Zeppelin albums simultaneously re-entered the top-200 album chart."

That would then be a total of "6" Led Zeppelin albums on the Top-200 Album charts in 1975.

So doesn't this mean that Herb Alpert's accomplisment was not only repeated, but superceded by Led Zeppelin in 1975??

Truth4Sale 07:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Surpassed, not superSeded - not the same. Common slip. Nobody loves an English smartass. Notreallydavid 08:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

While the word that was chosen may not have been correct, surpassed/superceded, it was spelled correctly.

I love a large number of English smartasses. I have no use for hicks with arrogant ignorance.

JimCubb 06:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

The feat accomplished by Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass was having five (5) albums in Billboard's Top Twenty simultaneously. Steve Sidoruk - A&M Fan Network

I removed the claim Alpert outsold the Beatles 2-1 in 1966. There was no citation, I did some research and can find nothing even approaching that claim, which is ridiculous on its face. It sounds like creative use of statistics, like Alpert outsold them in Mexico or some-such tenuous claim. By comparison, I did find that:
 * Rubber Soul sold 1.2 million copies in the US during the first 9 days of its release (Billboard article, January 1, 1966).
 * By August 1966, the Beatles had sold 150 million records worldwide (Variety 243, August 3, 1966).

By the editor who placed that "2-1" factoid's own admission, Alpert only sold 13 million. The Beatles selling 150 million in 64-66 would seem to pretty much crush that record, even if Beatles sales decreased significantly (which is pretty doubtful, considering the huge hits and albums they released during 1966, including 2 #1 hits Yellow Submarine and Paperback Writer, plus the hugely successful LP Revolver, #1 for 7 weeks, 47 weeks on charts,. The claim Alpert outsold them 2-1 is ludicrous on its face, and is not backed up by an citation or fact that mitigates its absurdity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.0.127 (talk) 02:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Bond
we need info on him in casino royal Kiran90 06:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Missing information
The biography needs to be expanded.

There is mention of a song for his first wife. However, there is no mention of any wife in the article.

The article is in both the Hungarian-American and Russian-American category but there is no justification for either in the article.

JimCubb 06:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the lady in the EP cover for 'What Now My Love?' and one or two Lp covers Herb's first wife?

Father was Russian, mother was Hungarian. If anyone has a ref for that info, it should be added in the article. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 03:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

In the personal life section, the article says "They had two children together: daughter, Eden, and son, Dore.[4]" The reference to Dore is incorrect. There is no son name Dore. Furthermore, The footnote points to an article that says Herb Alpert had previously performed and recorded under the name Dore Alpert. My research shows that Herb Alpert has e daughters: Eden, Amanda, and Aria. I can help edit but am hesitant since I'm a newbie.73.222.17.254 (talk) 19:44, 12 September 2016 (UTC). Now I find discussion on a chat forum about a son (Dore) by his first wife. Not sure if that constitute a reliable source. http://forum.amcorner.com/threads/herb-alperts-son.5887/  Afaculty10 (talk) 20:09, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

"only artist ever to hit #1 on the Billboard pop singles charts with both a vocal piece and an instrumental piece."
This is potentially debatable, depending on how picky you want to be about how records are credited, as Barry White also went to #1 with "Can't Get Enough" and "Love's Theme", the latter released under the name Love Unlimited Orchestra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.166.233 (talk) 19:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You are correct to say Barry White also has both vocal & instrumental number one hits. This is a fact and the note in Herb Alpert's write-up should be corrected.  However, it is debatable whether Stevie Wonder should be included in this discussion.  Most publications (I use Joel Whitburn's chart data) say "Fingertips" is not an instrumental -- but the original studio version is an instrumental, so I wouldn't have any hard feelings about inclusion. 2600:1700:649:1200:E1D3:C40E:6DD5:11F0 (talk) 15:14, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Stevie Wonder also had an instrumental #1 hit with "Fingertips - Part 1" in 1963 as well as several #1 hits as a vocalist. BurienBomber (talk) 08:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)


 * "Fingertips, Part 1" does contain a short spoken intro - I don't know if that's enough for it to no longer count as an instrumental. Regardless, it would be good if that claim in the article were referenced. Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 18:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Leyton Orient Football Club
Tijuana Taxi has been played as the Leyton Orient players enter the pitch at every home game for over 40 years as the following article explains,

http://www.leytonorient.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10439~1361439,00.html

could this be added to the article somewhere?

CD Availability
Fandango and Keep Your Eye On Me were both available on CD, but they were extremely rare, especially Fandango. That CD - if even found - can run up to $100 at minimum. This should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Middleeasternfilms (talk • contribs) 07:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Herb discussions his vocal approach to 'This Guy's in Love with You'
Nashua Telegraph (New Hampshire), Mary Campbell, AP Newsfeatures Writer, Herb Alpert Talks About Singing, Dec. 7, 1968, page 3: '. . About his voice, Alpert says, " . . . By usual standards, I don't have a great instrument as a vocalist. But maybe there is a basic truth that comes across.  If you choose good material and are honest about the arrangement and recording, you can get closer to what people are understanding today than if you just sing in a beautiful voice." . . '


 * I've added this reference to our article. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 17:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Herb Alpert was Born and Raised in Boyle Heights
To be exact, Herb Alpert was born and raised in Boyle Heights, which is a neighborhood east of downtown Los Angeles, in East Los Angeles. Sources: L.A. Times article:  Herb Alpert's Brass Rings and CBS Sunday Morning segment. MiztuhX (talk) 07:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

how popular as a live act?
So, what does this actually mean: By the end of 1964, because of a growing demand for live appearances by the Tijuana Brass?

How popular Tijuana Brass actually was? I heard a claim they were more popular than The Beatles by live success back then. 85.217.40.33 (talk) 01:20, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Society of Singers Lifetime Achievement Award
Should we include a mention of the Society of Singers Lifetime Achievement Award, given to Alpert in 2009 by the Society of Singers?

My position is that the award is not notable because mainstream media generally don't cover it. My position is that the notability of the Society of Singers does not confer notability on everything they do.

I suggest that Alpert and the award must be mentioned in WP:SECONDARY sources before we include the award. Binksternet (talk) 14:27, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Do not mention in any artist article. An award given by small Beverly Hills charity, whose own notability is rather tenuous. They hold benefits headlined by famous singers. Selection process is not provided, but one assumes that the honoree has to agree to turn up at the benefit. They put out press releases and consequently receive routine, by-the-by coverage in Hollywood/music press. If Mrs. Henry Mancini and her friends want to use their wealth and connections to help new and struggling professional singers, this is a very fine thing, but it hardly means that mentioning this award furthers WP readers' understanding of the subjects. Instead, these mentions seem more like PR for the charity. WP:NOTPROMO. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 11:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Alley Oop
There is no mention of Alpert in regards to authorship of that song in the article on Alley Oop. A gentleman named Dallas Frazier is mentioned as sole author. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 22:43, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Billboard says: "Under the name Dante & the Evergreens, he and Adler also recorded a cover of the Hollywood Argyles' "Alley Oop"? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:32, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That sheds some light on the issue. Since Alpert recorded the song and was not involved in the writing of the song, as the article says, I am going to remove the authorship claim.THX1136 (talk) 17:12, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

UK Charts
"This Guy's In Love With You" is listed as having been #1 in 3 countries, but only #3 in the UK. This depends upon which source you take. The BBC had this - along with The Beach Boys' "Do It Again" and The Bee Gees' "I've Just Got To Get A Message To You" - as part of a triple Number One, the only recorded occasion this has ever happened. 92.30.39.167 (talk) 17:15, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't HA's Vibrato Grill Jazz restaurant deserve mention somewhere in the main article?
I don't know enough myself to undertake this, either about its history or its current importance as a venue, but anyone have an informed opinion? Wolfamade (talk) 23:53, 12 November 2017 (UTC)


 * If he owns a restaurant, that should be mentioned in the article, yes. Korny O&#39;Near (talk) 14:47, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Dore Alpert
In August 1963 Dina was a release by Dore Alpert, a vocal song. A&M-catalogue number was 714. Watch it enter at Cash Box' Looking Ahead charts of 10 August, 1963: https://cashboxmagazine.com/archives/60s_files/19630810LA.html. It is an omission to the list of singles Herb released. Being a vocal song it also contradicts the fact that This Guy's in Love with You was his first and only vocal song ever released.

Besides, I regret Wikipedia for making it difficult to edit my comment like at ordinary talk pages to any other article. 109.37.139.233 (talk) 13:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

new album needs to be added
Sunny Side of the Street, September 2022. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:25, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Army

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 * 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 09:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 09:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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