Talk:Here I Stand (Usher album)

"Appetite" Credits
Whichever moron keeps removing Candice Nelson's rightful writing credits from "Appetite" please stop it, I've now provided an adequate source (http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=33:wj5qxvuhldfe) despite having the official booklet and therefore credits myself. Please accept your defeat...

The meaning of CONFIRMED...
Really, does anyone not know the meaning of the word "confirmed." Only two songs (which are "The Realest" and "At the Time") have been confirmed. "That Girl Right There" was leaked, not confirmed. It could have easily been a left over from "Confessions," or just a sampler like "Make It Rain." Stop adding unsourced material. --FSX-2007 (talk) 14:50, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Isn‘t Dr. Dre supposed to be producing for the album??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillon73 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Just What You Need
Whoever keeps puttine "Just what you need" that is not a single of ushers album. That song has recently surfaced on the internet. It would have to be fake as the albums first single has not even been released yetTrimy67 00:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Not on the Album
Usher has confirmed himself that songs like "You Play My Time," "Make It Rain," and "Romours," and "Shawty," will NOT be on the album. The only confirmed track is the realest. Where's the source for this info? Piyush90 20:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

What info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FSX-2007 (talk • contribs) 07:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * To show that the songs listed above wont be on the album? Piyush90 18:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

They are only street tracks created to make buzz. Why would usher release a whole heap of songs on the album before relasing the first single!! Trimy67 01:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, besides, only two songs have been confirmed to be on the album, and that is The Realest, and the T-Pain track.--FSX-2007 03:07, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Dat Girl Right There
I belive Dat Girl Right There is going to be the first single. It has gotten more airplay then tracks that are already out. I hear it atleast every other day, and I'm not even a serious radio-listener. I don't have evidence but maybe someone else does and can add it.76.107.65.243 (talk) 23:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It seems more likely that In This Club will be the first single now, but it's still up in the air so I wouldn't mark it either way yet.--74.237.241.122 (talk) 22:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

POSSIBLE NEW SONGS?
CHECK OUT
 * MOVING MOUNTAINS - USHER
 * I CAN'T WIN - USHER
 * TOUCH - USHER

THEY MAY BE SOME FROM HIS NEW ALBUM

YOU CAN YOUTUBE THE SONGS... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erndoglai (talk • contribs) 01:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Touch will not be on the album, but Moving Mountains will, and I Can't Win will likely be.--74.237.241.122 (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Samples
Does anyone know if any samples used on the album, especially Love In This Club part II. 2 of the songwriting credits go to Thom Bell and Linda Creed, so I'm guessing obviously it's from some Philly soul group.

This doesn't make sense
The album's second single, "Love in This Club, Part II", debuted on the "R&B/ Hip Hop Songs Chart at #14, [[[[[[[[[[and went to ]]]]]]] On May 21, 2008 the video for "Moving Mountains" was released on Usher's MySpace page.

Todays is May 28. That is in the Singles section —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paramount X (talk • contribs) 17:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Extra...extra track listing
Guys, please note that WikiPedia is not a collection of indiscriminate contents. Those "other tracks recorded for the album" is too detailed and very fancrufty. It might serve significance to others but generally, its not. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 12:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's exactly the point of Wikipedia, to provide as much information about the concerned item in the article as possible. Whether or not you personally find it interesting information is irrelevant, it helps people who read the page to learn more about the album, exactly the point of an encyclopedic article unless I am mistaken. And please stop using non-existent words like "fancrufty", I can't argue against your case if you keep using ridiculous words that don't mean anything to the general english-speaking consensus. Many thanks. mos-def (talk) 18:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:NOT. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I have read it. Please don't patronise me, my inclusion abides by all of those policies FYI. Please DISCUSS as is the intention of this page instead of simply posting WP:NOT, which is not helpful to this debate in any way seen as you haven't posted anything specific except your own opinion and words which mean nothing. (please explain "fancrufty") But in summary if you insist (and PLEASE read what I have just typed):

"Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia; there is no practical limit to the number of topics it can cover, or the total amount of content, other than verifiability and the other points presented on this page."

mos-def (talk) 16:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * PAPER refers to the number of articles that we can have, not really content within an article. Efe is right those other releases stuff is not necessary for a scholarly discussion of the topic for the general reader; merely useful for fanboys and collectors (whom we do not address here). "the point of Wikipedia, [is] to provide as much information about the concerned item in the article as possible"--could you point out guidelines that back you up on this? Thanks, indopug (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For knowing what "fancrufty" means, please read WP:Fancruft. indopug (talk) 17:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Bloody hell, this is a crap article. Disappointing. Mind you so is the album. "Lifetime" is the only track with any magic. I think IP's need banishing from this article. —  Realist 2  ( Speak ) 20:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think our colleagues have explained clearly to you. Im going to delete it now. This article is very visible and we don't want to give our readers some overly detailed tracklisting. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

"Hush"
On iTunes last week the single Hush appeared... where has this come from... is there a deluxe edition/re-release due out?--Wilsontoddlive (talk) 05:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems that's not part of the album, just a single. A little strange. DiverseMentality  (Boo!)  05:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

This article needs expanding
We neat to mention the critical and commercial reception to this album. It's certainly been a knock down from Confessions, both critically and commercially and the singles have been disastrous under performing by his standards. — Realist  2  12:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Album Sales
The citations say 1.5 million and 5 million worldwide. These are up to date sales. Do not edit it otherwise you are vandalizing the page. Thank you.BlackMambaKB24 (talk) 18:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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