Talk:Hermann Oberth/Archive 1

Romanian?
I need people who claim that he was Romanian to indicate what logic they follow. He was born in Austria-Hungary, never had Romanian citizenship afaik, and left his native region it was Romanian... Dahn 07:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I see now he left in 1938. Dahn 07:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Place of Birth
Was Oberth born in the city of Schäßburg or in Hermannstadt? The German-language Wikipedia suggests Hermannstadt. --Groshna (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Technical Information
A worthy project would be to add some actual technical information about Oberth's discoveries. He was apparently not aware of the prior work of Tsiolkovsky, Esnault-Pelterie and Goddard, but his 1923 booklet has some important new ideas in it. In particular, his analysis of exhaust speed and thermodynamics and mixture ratios was very new and important. DonPMitchell (talk) 04:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * these things were in his 1929 book. I'm just now reading the 1923 booklet, which appears to be rather basic in comparison to his large book six years later. DonPMitchell (talk) 14:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Hermann and Extraterrestrials
On an episode of UFO Hunters, they say that Oberth said "men from other worlds helped us" and that he was involved with some supernatural society later in life that included mediums, as well as his having served as honorary president of the German UFO society. Do you think that UFO Hunters is a credible source (It's history channel).PonileExpress (talk) 22:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, he definitely claimed that technologically "we have been helped by people from other worlds". 80.47.96.142 (talk) 10:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a source for that? Or are you simply making a statement of your belief? Oboroten (talk) 01:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

From The Americian Weekly, October 1954: 'It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.124.94 (talk) 07:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Month of Publication
Die Rakete zu den Planetenräumen was publised in 1923, but how do we know it was in June? Astronautix.com says it was published in December. A Soviet newspaper mentiones it in October, so it came out before then. DonPMitchell (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

German / Hungarian / Austro-Hungarian / Romanian
State borders have changed enormously since Oberth was born and the issue of ethnicity is still a major issue in the region. It should be possible to use a formulation that doesn't apply anachronistic names, takes no sides and doesn't detract too much from the subject, which is Hermann Oberth, not European history. Censoring out any mention of Hungarian names can't be the answer. Martijn Meijering (talk) 13:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ethnicly he is German134.3.76.108 (talk) 20:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Convair
There are conflicting reports about Oberth at Convair, that he was there in 1960, he was there for 9 months in 1961, he was there for two years from 1960-1962. Was he there for sure? What did he do? The Atlas was completed in 1957, and a pretty mature product by 1960. DonPMitchell (talk) 18:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Citizenship without nationality?
The article sidebar states:

Citizenship 	Romanian, Hungarian[citation needed], German[1] Nationality 	German

How could he be a citizen of three nations, without holding nationality?

184.155.130.147 (talk) 19:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

First liquid-fueled rocket?
Hello, sorry, this is my first comment in wiki, so don't know if is correctly placed. Just a small point - Hermann Oberth wasn't the first one who launched First liquid-fueled rocket. IMHO it was Robert Goddard in 1926 - it just need to find some source. I didn't read whole article from Le monde [4] but the part I saw: he only proposed to use rocket in 1917, but he did not use it. Sorry if I made some mess, if somebody can make my point proper. Thanks, Matej (15:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC))


 * The article does not say that he was.184.155.130.147 (talk) 05:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Citizenship and categories
I have reset the placenames, because the placename at the time of birth counts. As for citizenship, it is not clear whether or not Oberth applied for Romanian citizenship after World War I. If you have evidence, please add that. Further, I have removed the excess of categories built on various assumtions. If Oberth held Romanian citizenship for a time, some of them might be restored. -- Zz (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok, but then we should give a few addition and a little change to be it totally professional. Regarding the birthplace, because of his German ethnicity I leave Hermannstadt on the first place, I will add the contemporary official name, Nagyszeben in bracket's, at the same time I will add to the infobox Sibiu to "today Romania". The change: as it was introduced to many articles, the common Anglo-Saxon mistake of "Austro-Hungarian citizenship" that never existed, or adding Austrian citizenship to those persons where affiliated with Hungary before or after 1867. Just shortly - more of us explained it i.e. Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstein, Ignác Semmelweis, Philipp Lenard, articles etc. - Austro-Hungarian citizenship never existed, somebody was Austrian or Hungarian, dual citizenship was banned and this was true for Austria-Hungary as well for Royal Hungary before as a state with a Habsburg King, etc. (check Austria-Hungary, Austrian Empire, Royal Hungary articles). He was a Hungarian citizen for sure, there is no information if he ever held Austrian citizenship.(KIENGIR (talk) 17:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC))