Talk:Herod

[''More than one King Herod is mentioned in the New Testament. The article needs expanding.''] -- 217.168.172.203

You don't say ! Why not expand it then ? At the least you could list the various kings named Herod. It's much more sensible than adding comments like the above to an article. If you want to add comments, please use the Talk page link to add them. But if an article needs an obvious change, just go ahead and make it. -- Derek Ross

Massacre of the Innocents
(Discussion moved to Talk:Massacre of the Innocents) Gdr 20:15, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Hamlet
Which of these is referenced in Hamlet? That would be nice to include... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freezing the mainstream (talk • contribs) 03:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Herod the Great - (Matt. ii. 16).

“Oh, it offends me to the soul to hear a robustious, periwig-pated fellow tear a passion to tatters, to very rags, to split the ears of the groundings ... it out-herods Herod.” — Hamlet, iii. 2.

Read more: Herod — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/herod.html#ixzz14FHZ6Zq9

Herod III or Herod IV
This article says: Yet when we go the article on Herod of Chalchis we are told he is aka Herod V. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammimajus (talk • contribs) 18:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Herod of Chalcis, also known as Herod III, king of Chalcis (AD 41–48)

Rule dates of Herod Archelaus
This article says "Herod Archelaus (born 23 BC, ruled 4 BC–c. AD 18)." However, the other Wikipedia articles I can find on the subject say he died in AD 18 but ruled only until AD 6, when he was removed by Roman Emperor Augustus and the Province of Judea put under direct Roman rule (which is why Pontius Pilate was the authority in Jerusalem when Jesus died). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodian_dynasty, Rise to Power, 2nd paragraph, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_Archelaus, initial summary. I am not expert enough on the subject to change what's here, but I know there's a discrepancy. Gms3591 (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I fixed this. tahc chat 16:22, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

I just made two edits to the article and realized after I'd made them that my description of the edits was incorrect. I don't see any way to change that. Is it Article, View History, Undo, but instead of actually undoing, I enter a new reason? I'm not sure enough to take that chance. I said that before my changes there was ONE explanation of which Herod was which in the New Testament; there were MORE than one. I added for Herod the Great and Herod Archelaus; the two with chapter and verse references (the others are mentioned too many places to allow such specificity). Sorry for the mistake. I didn't mean to act as if someone else's previous work wasn't there. Gms3591 (talk) 15:05, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I reverted this edit, since we don't normally have such details in this, a disambiguation page. Past edit summaries are not themselves editable. tahc chat 16:22, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Another large set of Wikidata without English
82.177.40.11 (talk) 08:23, 5 May 2018 (UTC) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q223921

Herod the Great easily the primary topic
Herod should connect to Herod the Great, with tags to this DAB page for "other ppl by the name". He's the best known man by this name, and all of his descendants who opted for Herod as a second name did so because of his fame.

Contra: the New Testament calls all Herodian rulers who used the name, all 3 generations of them, simply "Herod", creating a terrible confusion. That's why the DAB page must always be very visibly indicated if/once we set Herod I as the default Herod, which I strongly believe to be the reasonable thing to do.

Herod I: birth of Jesus, Holy 3 Kings, Massacre of the Innocents at Bethlehem. Built last Temple in Jerusalem, the one known by Jesus and destroyed by Romans in 70 CE (he _started_ the project). Also (re)built Caesarea Maritima, Machaerus, Herodium, Masada, Sebastia.

Descendants and/or NT events connected to them: Philip (Caesarea Philippi), decapitation of St. John at Machaerus (Salome's dance), imprisonment of St Peter at Caesarea, death of last of ruling Herods there. Finished building the Temple, ruled over large parts of Judaea throughout much of the time of the Acts of the Apostles.

As you can see, Herod I is by far the more prominent one, both in history and the NT. Arminden (talk) 09:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)