Talk:Herstmonceux Castle

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"oldest significant brick building in England" I find this hard to believe -- 1441 is not all that old.--dunnhaupt 01:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I've toned this down. Partly, it depends on what is meant by "significant".  The Building Materials introduction to Pevsner's Sussex describes HC as "one of the earliest really ambitious brick structures in England".  It's certainly later than Cow Tower, Norwich (1378) and the North Bar in Beverley (1410), but they aren't as ambitious.


 * It also says (under Herstmonceux) "though occasionally brick had appeared in England throughout the Middle Ages, it became fashionable only at exactly the moment of Herstmonseux. Contemporary examples of similar scale in other counties are Tattershall Castle in Lincolnshire, Caister Castle in Norfolk and Faulkbourne [Hall] in Essex."  They all seem to be smaller than Herstmonceux, and Caister is in ruins.


 * The earliest use of brick for buildings in England seems to have been around 1300, e.g. part of Holy Trinity Church, Hull. --GuillaumeTell 19:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation
A pronunciation in the first paragraph would be helpful. Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 02:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Here is Patrick Moore pronouncing it at 40s in. That's how it used to be pronounced. That, or Hurstmonso rhyming with 'go'. I hear some people now saying Hurstmonsoo rhyming with 'Sue', which sounds risible the way unfamiliar pronunciations often do. Acorrector (talk) 11:03, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Material on courses
I've removed some of the text about the "award winning courses" and their being "one of the first of its kind." The citation is from the organisation's own website, doesn't list what awards have been won, and doesn't seem to claim to be one of the first of its kind. We really need a slightly better source for this. Hchc2009 (talk) 07:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Tudor?
The infobox lists it as a "Tudor mansion" and the architectural style as "Tudor". Not really logical- the castle was built between 1441 and... well, finished within a couple of decades, certainly; whereas Henry Tudor didn't become king until 1485 and the "Tudor" style didn't really appear until ca. 1500. And "Mansion?" While certainly more comfortable for its inhabitants than the grim keeps of the 12th century, this was nonetheless a real defensible fortification, miles away conceptually and structurally from places like Hardwick or Longleat, and certainly not a play "castle" like Strawberry Hill or Neuschwanstein. Solicitr (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Quite right, I’ll remove those and try and find a more accurate description. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 10:03, 6 January 2021 (UTC)