Talk:Hey Mama (Kanye West song)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: FormalDude (talk · contribs) 07:21, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, happy to be reviewing this GA nomination. I'll provide updates here periodically as I review the article. –– FormalDude  talk 07:21, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

I will post my recommendations as to what is needed to bring the article up to standard for each section below.
 * Thanks for the review, I have addressed everything... is it time to place this on hold or pass? --K. Peake 21:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Lead

 * Remove comma from first sentence.
 * ❌ this is the correct way for introduction of an album that a song is on --K. Peake 16:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Remove "who got in contact through Rick Rubin" as undue.

Background

 * Move the last sentence of the first paragraph to the beginning.
 * ✅ --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Composition and lyrics

 * Change the first appearance of "Donda" to "Donda West" and clarify that it is Kanye's mother.
 * ❌ she is introduced in the previous section and see MOS:SAMESURNAME --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The source for "West tries to force rhymes at points" does not verify that claim.
 * ✅ added an alternative sentence --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Release and reception

 * Start new paragraph after sentence two.
 * ❌ what's the point of having a para with nothing but the release date and a one sentence critical overview, which would not be backed up until the following para if I complied with this move? --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Move the final paragraph to the beginning.
 * ❌ critical reception before commercial is the way I've done for all my GAs and I see no opposing guideline --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * No need for brackets for the "[t]he Brion redux" quote per MOS:QUOTATIONS.
 * ✅ --K. Peake 09:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Create subsection "Commercial performance" for the final paragraph.
 * ✅ --K. Peake 16:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Live performances

 * Consider splitting up into multiple paragraphs.
 * ✅ --K. Peake 21:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Appearances in media

 * No comma for: The video features archival footage, showing the Wests rapping "Hey Mama" together.
 * ✅ while rewording so this flows smoother --K. Peake 16:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Credits and personnel

 * No changes needed.

Missing sections/content

 * 1) Cover versions - The song has been covered by Vitamin String Quartet and others (Rockabye Baby!, The Gold Soul All Stars).
 * ❌ I did look through the Google results for all of these, but none have enough coverage to meet WP:SONGCOVER. --K. Peake 21:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * 1) Promotion/marketing - In order to meet criteria 3, broad in its coverage.
 * this type of information is already included to a healthy extent with live performances and in parts of appearances in media, so isn't it broad enough despite not all being in the same section? --K. Peake 21:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I still think there should probably be a promotion/marketing section that covers when/how the song was first released, first performed, advertising, etc. –– FormalDude Emojione 1F427.svg talk 22:02, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Release/promotion should not all be in the same section when there's large amounts of live performances, as well as promo that classifies as media appearances (not all of those are from West himself); it is all organized within appropriate sections and there's no guideline specifically for release and promotion so I don't see any problem. --K. Peake 22:06, 25 November 2021 (UTC)