Talk:Heyndrickxia coagulans

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Possibly Lactobacillus sporogenes should be merged here. It would be great if someone with knowledge on the subject could have a look at that article, and its talk. // Habj 06:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Merged Lactobacillus sporogenes, as there is clear that it is the same species. (Knorrepoes)

Benefits of Lactobacillus sporogenes as a probiotic
Clinical studies have revealed that L. sporogenes can be successfully implanted in the intestine. As explained in an earlier section, L. sporogenes satisfies the essential requirements of an efficient probiotic. Preparations of L. sporogenes in pharmaceutical dosage forms such as tablets, capsules, dried granules or powder have the following characteristics: Contain a large number of viable lactobacilli that retain viability during preparation in pharmaceutical dosage forms and during storage before consumption. The spores are thermostable as against viable L. acidophilus cells which may not withstand lyophilization. Survive in gastric secretions and bile of the upper digestive tract and reach the intestine safely. Settle in the digestive tract and produce enough lactic acid and other antagonistic substances to inhibit the growth of pathogenic bacteria. Being sporulated, they germinate under favorable conditions and produce sufficient viable cells which proliferate and perform vital healthful functions as described earlier. In addition, L. sporogenes spores are semi-resident and are slowly excreted out of the body (7 days after discontinuation of administration). L. sporogenes is effective in the form of dietary supplements as well as when added to food products. Natto is a traditional fermented product from soya bean, consumed widely in Japan as a rich source of protein. Its flavor is improved by the incorporation of lactic acid bacteria such as L. sporogenes, L. acidophilus or Pediococcus acidilactiti to the starter culture (Bacillus natto), to yield a product called yogurunatto having superior flavor and storage characteristics as well as improved nutritional and therapeutic properties. A nutritive medium (homogenized mushroom, Lentinus edodus) is mixed with soya beans and fermented to yield this health food product. The requirement of availability of a number of viable lactic acid bacteria is fulfilled by using L. sporogenes.

http://www.lactospore.com/benifit.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.97.175.125 (talk) 00:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC).


 * References ? Natto contains totally other species anyway and no B. coagulans. This looks like spam from the producer of this product (website is producers website). Knorrepoes 20:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Image Caption Inaccurate
"Gram stain of Bacillus coagulans colonies." is technically inaccurate as you don't stain "colonies". Suggest changing to "Gram stain of Bacillus coagulans." Troymc 05:06, 19 April 2007 (UTC)"

IMViC test section inaccurate
IMViC test series is Indole, Methyl Red, Voges-Proksauer & Citrate. The nitrate reduction test is not a part of it. Troymc 05:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Effectiveness for treating IBS
I just looked at the study on the effectiveness on Bacillus coagulans at treating IBS, and the data seems to have been interpreted completely incorrectly. The baseline measurement for people taking the probiotic seems to be much worse; however, the "baseline" was actually recorded while people were taking the probiotic, and those people gradually reduce to the same level as the people taking the placebo.

Therefore, the better interpretation is that taking the medicine makes pain and bloating much worse very quickly (by unbalancing the gut flora), but they gradually return to baseline levels by the end of 8 weeks (possibly after the gut flora have balanced out). In this interpretation, bacillus coagulans only makes the symptoms worse. I'd remove the cite of this paper, but that would be a result of original research. Are there any better papers that we could use to replace that citation? 208.101.148.20 (talk) 19:45, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have never seen any... and I agree the paper quoted is not quite accurateKnorrepoes (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Marketing
This bacterium is being actively marketed in the US by Ganeden Biotech, Inc. for Lactose Intolerance and IBS. http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/ I wasn't sure how to add that information without it looking like an advertisement, but it seems a relevant bit of information, as an update to the current reference that "there are references to its use in humans". I do not know if any other companies are marketing it, but these particular products are available and popular (as evidenced by difficulty keeping them in stock at most stores) in Denver, CO, USA. My personal observation (which I know does not belong on the main page) is that they seem to be breaking into demographics that do not usually think of probiotics as a solution to medical problems. I doubt there have been any published studies regarding that, unfortunately, as I find it very interesting. Nightsmaiden (talk) 07:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

It can survive boiling water?
The Bigelow Tea company adds Bacillus coagulans to its "Herb Plus Probiotics" teabags, saying "unlike traditional probiotics, GanedenBC30 is able to withstand the heat needed to brew tea." Are there any scientific facts to back this up?--71.34.159.160 (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

If Bacillus coagulans is Gram-positive&hellip;
&hellip; then why does the attached picture, claiming to be Gram-stained, show it in pink? Gram-staining stains Gram-positive bacteria dark purple; Gram-negative bacteria come out pink. &mdash; Bob Blaylock (talk) 23:43, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it was an error in the past with the CDC? The image used was originally uploaded in 2006. I checked the website it was obtained from and it now matches your assessment. I have updated the image. – The Grid  ( talk )  19:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

New nomenclature changes
Page should be renamed to Weizmannia coagulans to reflect updated nomenclature. Apple127 (talk) 17:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC)