Talk:Hi-5 (Australian group)/Archive 1

Split
At the moment, the layout of this article is confusing. It reads like two seperate articles, which although they are about seperate iterations of the same program, are different enough to qualify for their own articles. Gorman 02:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Kathleen
The Wiki reference to Kathleen de Leon Jones points to a page that hasn't been created yet. I don't have an account so I can't do it but it should really redirect to Kathleen de Leon which has some (though not much) content. 210.10.165.26 14:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

"Kathleen de Leon has been replaced by Sun Park in 2006" - Is this confirmed? Because Kathleen is still shown as the official cast member in the group's website. --61.69.236.117 16:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Kathleen won't be replaced by Sun on the website until the new series goes to air. Sun has replaced Kathleen in the 2006 shoot (and by consequence series 9) and also the 2006 tour. Gorman 02:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * At July 2007 Sun is on the show, and Kathleen is no longer on the official site, so obviously has gone (sigh). Wiki page thus requires cleanup --MichaelGG 09:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Page name
I was about to move this page to Hi-5 (Australian band) to match naming conventions - but then I thought it might be better off just at Hi-5, with the existing Hi-5 at Hi-5 (disambiguation). Checking out the What links here for Hi5 and Hi-5 shows pretty much 100% links destined for the Australian band. It may also save confusion in deciding if Hi-5 is a band, a TV show, or a group of entertainers - though this shouldn't be the reason for choosing primary disambiguation for this topic, just an additional bonus. Any suggestions? -- Chuq 12:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I notice the page has just been moved without discussion, but I think moving the American band off to it's own page might also be an idea. -- Chuq 00:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * An interesting thought. I've gone and made changes without discussion as I didn't realise there was a process, hopefully I've not tread on anyone's toes. I think Hi-5 should go directly to the Australian page, with a link to the American page AND the disambiguation page. That makes the most sense to me. I'm not sure also for the standards of capitalization? Peter

Jup-Jup
"Jup Jup appears in this song too, making Chats the only character to have actually noticed Jup-Jup for real". On an episode I saw yesterday in New Zealand (on 24 October 2006), Kathleen was in Paris with Jup-Jup in her backpack. A Parisian artist (played by Nathan) paints her portrait which includes Jup-Jup in the backpack and she wonders what that is. Jup-Jup and the Frenchman say au revoir to each other and Kathleen thinks he's saying au revoir to her multiple times. Anyway, my point is that in this scene another chatacter sees Jup-Jup. SilverFox 09:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's another one where both Nathan and Kellie see Jup jup in a museum when, again, Jup Jup is on Kathleen's back. -- linca linca  02:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Five in the air
How do we know that the theme song is called "Five in the air" and not "Hi-5 Theme"? --Vptes1 18:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's in the credits for every DVD.
 * -- linca linca  01:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
I placed a cleanup tag onto the article. It's really filled with a lot of nonsensical garbage and I frankly don't have the time to sieve through it all myself, but am hoping someone can have the tenacity. I've done a lot for this article, but all the cruft is just cluttering things up. -- linca linca  12:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've also reduced the article to start class due to the article becoming a cesspool of nonsense and unrequired gathering of lists. Let's get this back up to a B class, or even to GA/A or FA. It's possible, but not with the poor quality of editing currently going on. -- linca linca  12:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I can fix info on it.. Hope we can try bringing it back to a high level!

Casey Burgess being a firefighter??
Um... I'm pretty sure the woman in the NSW fire department page http://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=9068 quoted under Casey Burgess is a different woman... Squiggle (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Band members
I've commented out the band member replacement history. There is no assumption of positions and successions in the group like with Power Rangers and their associated colors, but if there is, that needs to be detailed in the biography / history section. Also the details on why people left the group should go in the history section of the group. As the members already have their own articles, there is no need to list a "Where are they now" section. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Merge back to main?
At this point the band members section and tours are practically the same as those on the main Hi-5 television series. What is the point of having a group page then? Shouldn't this be merged back to the main article? -AngusWOOF (talk) 04:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


 * There is a slight shift in Hi-5 TV series to Hi-5 House to justify the two articles, however, both articles still have the same mass of unsourced content. -AngusWOOF (talk) 13:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Reorganize band members section
Should the Band members section be simplified to just show current and former members, with members' reasons for leaving and successions to be expanded upon in the band's History section? -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:03, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm more concerned with the lack of sourcing at present myself, especially as the article's been tagged for needing citations since 2011. The only reason I'm not moving the material to the Talk page right now is that I only became aware of this article due to the RFC. DonIago (talk) 15:10, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

To answer, AngusWOOF: yes, it should. To address DonIago's concerns: go for it, supply the refs and improve the article.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:12, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Band members section is far too long and overwhelming. Most of the information included is not notable. I would support having just a current members section titled, "Band members". Meatsgains (talk) 02:11, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It seems like a good idea to model the band members section after that of other articles, such as Iron Maiden or KMFDM, GA-class articles which give a brief list of former formers and a link to a page with detailed information. If there isn't enough relevant information sourceable to RSs, I would suggest just creating a simple graph, such as the ones at the those articles' split off pages.  That seems pretty standard. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:57, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, it looks like my attempts to remedy this are consistently being reverted by a floating IP person. Even when I put in a sourced filmography table, it is completely undone and placed back to a useless fancruft. -AngusWOOF (talk) 04:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Sections to reorganize - reasons for leaving/replacement
The following section should be rewritten for the History section of the article. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)


 * This has since been updated with the prose written on the TV series section. Now it just needs referencing and adapting to the band viewpoint instead of the TV show viewpoint, although they are closely related anyway. -AngusWOOF (talk) 20:38, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Original and former members' reasons for leaving
In order, first to last:
 * Kathleen de Leon Jones: Left following the birth of her first child with former Savage Garden member Daniel Jones in 2006, and permanent leaving in July 2007 to focus on raising her child.
 * Tim Harding: Left following a serious motorcycle accident in 2007 where he fractured both legs and suffered a serious spinal injury that required intensive care and reconstruction.
 * Charli Robinson: In February 2008 she left to pursue other interests in presenting work, and acting in film and television, in order to "challenge herself".
 * Kellie Crawford: Left to explore other career opportunities and to settle down and start a family. Announced in October 2008 that her last show would be at Carols by Candlelight on 24 December 2008 with Nathan and Sun.
 * Nathan Foley: Left to concentrate on solo music career. Announced in November 2008 that his last show would be at Carols by Candlelight on 24 December 2008 with Kellie and Sun
 * Sun Park: Left prior to her marriage to Nathan Pezzimenti as she did not wish to be constantly leaving her husband to tour with Hi-5. Announced in December 2008 that her final performance would be at Carols by Candlelight with Kellie and Nathan.
 * Fely Irvine: Left to pursue other acting opportunities. Her final performance was at the 2011 Carols by Candlelight.
 * Tim Maddren: Left after getting a role in The Addams Family Broadway Musical. His final performance was in Cebu City, Philippines, on 19 January 2013.
 * Casey Burgess: Left to pursue a solo music career. Her final performance was in Cebu City, Philippines, on 19 January 2013.
 * Lauren Brant: Left the band to pursue other acting opportunities. Announced a business venture, Loliboli, on YouTube on 12 June 2014.

Replacement of cast

 * Charli Robinson was replaced by Casey Burgess in 2008, who was then replaced by Mary Lascaris in 2013.
 * Tim Harding was replaced by Stevie Nicholson in 2007.
 * Kellie Crawford was replaced by Lauren Brant in 2009, who was then replaced by Tanika Anderson in 2014.
 * Nathan Foley was replaced by Tim Maddren in 2009, who was then replaced by Ainsley Melham in 2013.
 * Kathleen de Leon Jones was replaced by Sun Park in 2006, who was then replaced by Fely Irvine in 2009, and then by Dayen Zheng in 2012.

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