Talk:High School Musical 2/Archive 1

InfoBox
What happened to the infobox? Can someone get another one on this page.

Title
Can someone please change the title?! According to the trailer, there is no subtitle. It should just be called High School Musical 2! it could be something a little bit more outgoing


 * wasn't the title called "High School Musical 2:Give it all or nothing"? 130.13.114.171 19:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's High School Musical 2: Sing It all or Nothing according to imdb, but the 'sing it all or nothing' is just a subtitle so we'll just leave it... - Natasha1994 12:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Trailer
What happened to the trailer that was on this page? Can someone get it back on? CAN WE VIEW THE TRAILER? CAN SOME ONE HELP US TO DO IT?

Info on the Plot
There is info on the plot at. Look on the third page. I request this be added, since it seems to be a fairly reputable source.

It was in People magazine on Page 46. I forget which month and which week, but there was an interview with Vanessa Hudgens and she gave some facts about the movie. I must have been the only one to see it, because in it, it says that she's a lifeguard and gets to wear a cute bathing suit. I wish I still had the article. But she was mainly talking about her new CD, but they asked her a few questions about HSM2. --troy_gabriella1988 5:22 p.m. 12/11/06 Zac Efron loves his girlfriend Emily Davis.No one knows about her and him except for their friends back home.Emily says"that my friends treat me the same way as they did before,but everybody wants to be my friend now." Emily and Zac loves to sing togeather now thats what a boy and a girl should do togeather.

== PLOT!

plot is said to be about how its summer and sharpay and ryan invite everyone for a talent comp at there country club!!troy gets a job as a lifeguard there for the summer!sharpay fakes drowning and ryan tries to break the 2 up will it work?will this be the end of singing career??no MORE TILL LATER.

TROYS_GIRL 3:39pm UK

Release Date May Be Moved Up
As you may or may not know, zefron.com is reporting the release date for HSM 2 to be some time in the fall of 2006. Obviously, this sounds a little too soon. However, zefron.com is a credible source and gets its info from Zac Efron. Also, weren't you a little quick to jump up and change the release date from the rumoured January 19, 2007 to sometime in 2008? I know a Disney representative said this, but it was only the CEO of advertising or something similar to that. I doubt he knows for sure and besides, he said "likely" not "definitely." I'm sure they would much rather give a later date just in case something comes up than give a earlier date and have to disappoint fans by pushing it back. Basically, I was just wondering if this new rumour should be added to the HSM 2 page.
 * The quote was from the President of Disney Channel Worldwide. Regardless of all of this, a discussion with an admin has led to the conclusion that no specific date information should be provided, as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, with all of the rumors flying around the Internet with radically different dates, it's safe for accuracy sake to place no date, and just give information on it's current production status. -- light  darkness (talk) 05:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Can it realistically be filmed in Spring 2007 and released in Summer 2007?--Lucius funk 20:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC) Er...yes. The "Cheetah Girls 2" started shooting in April and aired in August. They crank them out fast at The Disney Channel.

Stella's Role
It's been rumored that Vanessa Anne Hudgens' younger sister, Stella Hudgens might make an appearance in this film. Since this hasn't been confirmed and we don't even know if she's rumored for only an appearance or possibly an actual role, I think this information should not be included in the rumors section that has been given with a credible source. --KaitlynBelle 19:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Casting calls in California -- Is it a rumour ?
I heard a call for children ages 7 to 17 to do voice overs or maybe get a part on High School Musical 2. Is this true?

/Nina genenina65@yahoo.com


 * .... The interviews were to be held in Salinas I believe. They stated that they were only taking 200 applicants.

Stella's possible role
In my J-14 magazine, Vanessa said Stella will get a part cuz she was an extra in the first.

Wiki luver111 22:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Will there be a High School Musical 2 Tryout in New York or New Jersey? Will ther be any Musical 2 tryouts anywhere in INDIA???

Cite your Sources
There has been a lot of rumored information being passed through the wiki, in which I urge you to cite your sources, from a reputable online source.

Will there be High School Musical try outs anywhere in India???

I dnt think so i audition for Gab in HSM1 IWAZ RUNER UP BT THEY SED I MITE B IN HSM2 VANESSA AND I LOOK IDENTICAL!!!

Cast fansites
Please do not add links to cast fansites in this article. They belong in the article of the individual actor. Only external links pertaining to the film are relevant. ... disco spinster   talk  20:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hidden Scene in HSM1.
If you watch until the very end of High School Musical, after the credits, you can see a hidden scene in which Sharpay founds out how good the cookies Zeke made her tasted and runs up to him and hugs him with much enthuiasm saying she loves him. This may have something to to with High School Musical 2. Did anyone else see that hidden scene after the credits? Is it possible that this may have something to do with HSM2?--Jak 17:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I saw the, as you put it, "hidden scene" but i highly doubt it will have somthing to do with the sequal but i may be wrong

LoL; I think everyone saw that 'hidden scene' because it's not really a hidden scene at all. I doubt it has anything to do with HSM 2, unless Sharpay and Zeke are together. By the way, she never said she loved him. She just said the cookies were the best she's ever tasted and asked if he would make more for her.--KaitlynBelle 19:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that everyone saw the "hidden scene", but it may have something to do with the sequal. Sharpay probalby just gets really fat. LOL

I think ANYONE that has seen HSM has seen the "hidden scene" and i doubt that it will have anything to do with HSM2 because it would be weird if Sharpay and Zeke were friends

I think that everyone saw it too, and I heard that sharpay and Zeke are more than friends! And That Zeke makes sharpay her faverioute pastry! if you go to the disney channel web site you can vote on what should happen!!

Kay's role
I have heard that Kay Panabaker has a role in this movie as a girl that devolips a crush Troy while he is lifeguarding at a country club. I have also heard that this movie will actually be taking place at a club! Is all of this true?

It's been rumoured that HSM 2 will be set at a country club, to which the Evanses belong and Troy's a lifeguard at, but I highly doubt Kay Panabaker will be making an appearance. - KaitlynBelle 01:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Bold texthsm 2 will be the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==Semi protection==

There's a great deal of vandalism to this article coming from anonymous IPs. Also, several insteances of copyright violations. As a result, I have semi-protected the page. This will block anonymous editors and recently-created accounts from editing but will allow everyone else. If you are trying to edit as an anonymous user, please create an account and then request that the page be unprotected. --Yamla 14:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I heard that Alexa Nikolas and Vitoria Justice will be in the movie to .... is thath true????

--68.219.149.96 13:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)'''i dunno if anyone i would of thought jamie lynn spears would be!

plus my bff read on the internet that troy is the life guard and sharpay pretends to drown then troy has to do mouth to mouth and gabriella sees and thinks he is kissing her so breaks up with him then sharpay is happy and blah blah blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'''

I dont belive you nd if u ar telling the truth then wat site did u c it on

Kay is going 2 be in hsm 2 but it has not been confirmed more than likely "yes"

Yea who hasnt seen that!!! But i think Zac is cool!!!

Problem with the code
I have been having problems with the code on the box and I am trying to get it back in order (without having HSM 3 on because it is not verified). It works better on one site and not this one. Sorry for the inconvinience User:Lord Hawk 01:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Disable all until 1 month prior to premiere.
Some administrator, please disable this article for ANY editing until one month prior to the release date. Every new Disney Channel Original Movie premiere is announced one month before the month of the premiere month or months before. We have enough information. --AOL Alex 19:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatley, we can't do that. No page can be "fully protected" unless there's some extreme reason, like edit warring. It can certainly be semi-protected if the vandalism gets bad enough Mad Jack 06:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Real Deal
No NICK stars are going to be in HSM2. I heard that Matthew Underwood was offered the part of Troy but since of his contract with Nick that means he can't do a Disney movie. This means Nicole, Victoria, and Jamie CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE IN HMS2!


 * Err...why would they be in it anyways? People on Nick aren't the only available actors in the business. -- andrewI20 Talk 01:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Release date
Is there a source for it? The article seems to contradict itself, saying source and running time are TBA, but then listing a release date. Mad Jack 00:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Should be at High School Musical 2: Sing It All or Nothing!
Anyone agree? -- Howard  the   Duck  16:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. On IMDB it is named High School Musical 2: Sing It All or Nothing! IMDB is a strong and reliable source when it comes to movie information. 202.144.178.47 05:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * ...no, it's not. There are a ton of unsourced things there, as well. Zei-ness

Complete-protection
Please protect this article from edits by ANYONE except Sysops because this is getting out of hand. IMDB Pro users who are Sysops here will be allowed to edit it correctly. It should be like that to prevent arguements. --AOL Alex 23:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What does IMDB pro have to do with anything? I would presume it is just as completely unreliable as the IMDB itself is. Also, I am not a syops and do not wish to be, yet I certainly should be able to edit this page. Mad Jack 03:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Mad Jack is correct in that IMDB is not a reliable source. Please see WP:RS.  --Yamla 03:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Movie title
Can someone PLEASE get rid of the subtitle "Sing It All Or Nothing"? It's not verified anywhere - and if it is, add the reference to the page.
 * That's right! According to the teaser trailer, the only confirmed title is High School Musical 2, the subtitle Sing It All Or Nothing! is just based on a fan-made poster circulated on the Internet. This page is named with the subtitle because of a FAN-MADE poster! That's hilarious! 220.246.129.232 13:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Uhm, so, anyone volunteering to change it? Heh. It's annoying me and all it's doing is making more rumors for everyone to spread. - Zei

Budget and filming date
The budget and filming date can be found here. I ask you to please add this to the page. - Zei


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

PAGE MOVED per discussion below. I forgot to close this survey earlier, oops. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
High School Musical 2: Sing It All Or Nothing! → High School Musical 2 — Simpler name, possibly more accurate and verifiable zzuuzz (talk) 01:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey

 * ''Add  * Support   or   * Oppose   on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~.


 * Support I support this move. -- zzuuzz (talk) 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Support It's not verified. Simple as that. Graphitesmoothie 02:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Support It is NOT OFFICIAL. This could be like the Cheetah Girls 2 movie. It was said that the subtitle was When in Spain but it ws NOT OFFICIAL. Please get rid of Sing It All or Nothing! 207.20.25.100 20:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Support The only title revealed and confirmed is High School Musical 2, without the subtitles. T.P. 16:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

 * ''Add any additional comments:

Finally, it got moved back. :) Graphitesmoothie 20:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Who Added Hillary Duff?
since when has hilary duff been in the cast as an 'emily evans?' or whatever it is? Maahem33
 * She hasn't. Neither of the other "new additions" are sourced. I beg someone to please take them off as apparently no one else can. Zei-ness 03:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Add
Please add High School Musical Thank you ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mikani (talk • contribs) 17:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Vanessa Hudgens rocks and zac efron is so sexy im his no.1 FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amy 07

Cast list
The cast list is on IMDB, so why hasnt anyone posted it???


 * IMDB is unreliable. Zei-ness

Total Protection Until Disney Release Information
There should be a total protection on this page before disney release any information, but then Wikipedia is also meant to be a encyclopdeia that anyone can edit.

cast
Zac Efron -                        Troy Bolton

Vanessa Anne Hudgens              Gabriella Montez

Ashley Tisdale                   Sharpay Evans

Lucas Grabeel                    Ryan Evans

Change from "Cast" to "Confirmed Cast"
The cast has been changed to confirmed cast as rumoured cast should not be added since it is not actual information and has no sources. -- Gatojo 05:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

No "Cast" Changes Until We Have Sources
May I ask you all to delete any additions to the "cast" that don't come with a link to a source? IMDB doesn't count, either. Zei-ness

Please move this page back
Could an admin please move this page back to High School Musical 2 per the consensus above. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to be an admin to move it. :P I moved it, but my reason got cut off. :P Anyways, the basic gist of my entire reasoning is that the movie is in pre-production. The script probably isn't final yet, seeing as how the cast have stated in numerous interviews that they haven't received a copy yet. Why would there be a tagline/subtitle when that isn't even done yet? Those are usually decided during post-production. Graphitesmoothie 23:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I keep forgetting they changed that. Does anyone know where this tagline comes from? -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Little tween kids who like to start rumors? The promo and the banners at the HSM concerts list the title as "High School Musical 2". There is no subtitle. Besides, the title's long enough already... Zei-ness 03:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Auditions
Anyone have any confirmed info on auditions other then that listed above? Sith Lord 13 02:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Zac Efron
I think there was a the music would have been written to suit his natural voice (read: Will Zac actually be doing his own singing in his natural voice?)

Just wondering.

WAVY 10 22:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hannah Montana Cameos
Okay, does anyone else think that having a cameo appearance by someone from Hannah Montana is a BAD IDEA? I think it would almost be breaking the 3rd wall (that wall between reality and acting) by adding some actor or actress from another Disney show. And some of us are not fans of either the show or the actors. I know it is probably going to happen, but I am not looking foward to seeing this cameo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.158.135.7 (talk) 01:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

I agree - I'm not really looking forward to seeing HSM2 anymore now that I know that someone from Hannah Montana will have a cameo in it! And you're right. That's pretty much breaking the third wall - especially if Miley Cyrus gets voted to do it (which she probably will), because everyone knows her as Hannah Montana! I'm not looking forward to it either. PS: Who's idea was it to do that anyway?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.158.135.7 (talk) 01:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

And, now that you've replied to yourself ... Why does this even matter? Is there anyone saying that Miley will show up? Cite an article. Also, Wikipedia is not a forum, message board or otherwise a place for speculative chatting :) -- Ipstenu ( talk | contribs ) 02:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please don't remove your sig note, if you're not gonna sign it. -- Ipstenu ( talk | contribs ) 15:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

This is the talk page about the article. That's just your opinion. - Natasha1994 09:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)


 * High School Musical is for kids anyways, stop giving it too much thought it is a pretty dumb movie. Generation talk123 01:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Has that even been confirmed?

WAVY 10 15:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

yes it has on hsm's disney page (they have a survey...) Strongy820 16:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It hasn't officially been confirmed. That was a bonus question, so anything could happen - we'll just have to wait. - Natasha1994 16:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

And also, I don't really think if someone (let's say Miley) shows up, they'd let her appear in character.

WAVY 10 15:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think that would be a little weird, don't really know how they are gonna (if they do) fit in a role for a Hannah Montana star.. - Natasha1994 14:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Rumoured Plot
I was thinking of writing a rumoured plot of what happens which I have read and heard about, but before I shall do this I was just wondering if anybody disagrees. Adam 1412 19:35 January 20th 2007


 * Please don't Rumors etc are speculation which don't need to be on Wikipedia. Let's wait till we known for sure :) -- Ipstenu ( talk | contribs ) 16:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

England
does ne1 no when HSM2 will b released in England? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.43.98.196 (talk) 19:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC).