Talk:High aristocracy

Redirection error
This article space has been erroneously re-directed to Uradel. This is a POV problem as well as an error of translation: In German language and history, "High aristocracy" = Hochadel (i.e., "ruling nobility"), not Uradel (i.e., "original nobility"). There were families of the High Aristocracy which were never members of the Uradel (e.g. some mediatised Ministeriales houses, as well as, for instance, the Fuggers, the Thurn und Taxis), etc. And there were families of countly or lower rank (barons, knights, untitled nobles) which belonged to the Uradel but were never members of the High Aristocracy (e.g. the Junkers of Prussia, the Princes of Pless, the Bismarcks, etc.) The error's origin is the German tendency to conflate old nobility with high nobility, but that POV is ahistorical. This re-direction should be reversed. FactStraight (talk) 04:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)