Talk:Highclere Castle

Location
Although the postal address given on the website for Highclere Castle ends with Newbury, Berkshire, this is the address of the Estate Office. Highclere House itself is in Hampshire, a couple of miles south of the Hants/Berks border. Mighty Antar 23:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * More to the point, postal addresses don't tell you which county a house is in, only which county the post town (which can be some distance away) is in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.147.36 (talk) 16:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

"Carnarvon family"?
The article mentions "Carnarvon" only as a title, which is possessed by one person at a time, the earl. Shouldn't the family be referred to as the "Herbert family"? Monomoit (talk) 16:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Filming location, not setting
''Arch. Dig. notwithstanding setting (narrative) is the sense implied by "the main setting for the British television period drama Downton Abbey", and the setting (whether main or exclusive) of Downton Abbey'' is a fictional castle called "Downton Abbey". It is not for me to tell AD what they should do, so for now i withhold my opinion on that. But when it appears in WP in the context just stated, we must distinguish between "setting" and Filming location. Fixing accordingly. --Jerzy•t 04:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Structural System fyou
This is apparently vandalism. "fyou" is in only one dictionary, the Urban Dictionary, with the obvious meaning. I'm deleting it. If you know that this is some obscure local term, then you need to add it to the article and explain it. But as a stand-alone, it's inappropriate. Tweedly-dee (talk) 01:50, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Image Request
A plan of the piano nobile, that is to say the plan of the main floor, would greatly enhance this article. --Cantabwarrior 23:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantabwarrior (talk • contribs)

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What does this mean?
(italics added only to emphasise that in my question:) I don't know if it's because I'm going on two days without sleep, and my thinking is skewed, but whatever, I can't/don't understand what this means, exactly: "what does, ..."presented the living" .. mean? From the article in this sentence below (emphasis mine) Thanks in advance:


 * "In 1680 Sir Robert Sawyer presented the living of Highclere to the Rev. Isaac Milles (1638–1720), the elder, who remained there till his death. White Oak was the parsonage where Milles took pupils, including the many children of Thomas Herbert, 8th Earl of Pembroke, by marriage the new proprietor of Highclere. "

IrishLas (talk) 21:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)


 * That's a good question. I think the word or phrase is uncommon enough that it needs a definition in the article. There is an article: on Advowson — a term related to the idea of being presented. - Hollarbohem (talk) 03:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

International fame
I added the phrasing 'gained international fame as the main location for the drama series Downton Abbey (2010-15) and the 2019 film based on it'. changed to 'became more widely known'. A few refs, most of which I've now added to the article:


 * "The estate gained international fame when it appeared in the series Downton Abbey." - ABC 7 News
 * "Now, catapulted to fame, repaired and fully restored to its historical glory, it attracts record numbers of visitors from around the world." - Forbes
 * "... including Highclere Castle long before it achieved international fame in the television series Downton Abbey." - The Telegraph

I think 'international fame' is justified? TSP (talk) 00:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Justified in journalistic writing style, but Wikipedia does not emphasise or exaggerate. International fame is a high bar, and even among the small percentage of the global population who have seen Downton, is the building truly famous? --Wire723 (talk) 08:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia follows the sources, and the sources seem to me to say at the very least 'international fame'.
 * 'the show ... has appeared in more than 200 countries or regions ... NBC Universal estimates that more than 120 million viewers worldwide have watched “Downton Abbey” at some point... “Downton Abbey” was the most-watched drama in Denmark, the No. 1 scripted series in the Netherlands and at or near the top of its time slot in countries like Singapore and Brazil last year ... it has also been one of the most watched imports in Australia, Norway, Belgium, Israel and Iceland, according to Amandine Cassi, head of international television research at Eurodata TV Worldwide, an audience-research company based in Paris. The show’s success is on a scale almost never reached by British or European series, she added.' - New York Times
 * I think the sources are pretty clear that Downton Abbey has very major international recognition, and has brought a radical increase in fame to Highclere Castle - 'The huge global success of Downton, according to Lady Fiona Carnarvon, has funded a rolling programme of building repairs aimed at safeguarding Highclere for the next generation.' (Guardian)
 * 'Became more widely known' seems to me to be a severe understatement and not to match our sources. TSP (talk) 11:29, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for starting this discussion rather than simply reverting. Wire723 (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Film and TV location
For me this huge table has a number of issues:
 * It is almost completely uncited - 1 in the whole table, and that a bare url;
 * Its got embedded urls leading to a non-RS site, IMDb;
 * It’s very detailed and with masses of over-linking - Dame Maggie Smith has three.

Would there be any objections to a trimming? I appreciate Downton is important to the house, and article, I’d almost suggest a separate, prose, section on that. KJP1 (talk) 10:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)