Talk:Hilde Lindemann

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Some proposed edits to the page to decrease reliance on outside sources and to improve article:

Reflection: When researching for my annotated bibliography, I focused on looking for secondary and tertiary sources to replace some of the primary sources the article currently relies on. While I didn’t find any facts that were explicitly wrong, I need to add more sources to the page. Most of the sources are the books Hilde has published, which are primary sources, just listed at the bottom of the article. I found endless book reviews on the MSU Libraries resource search that I will use as more far-removed sources to better adhere to Wikipedia’s pillar as a tertiary source. I will use quotes from these reviews to add to the section about Hilde’s publications and in her contributions to philosophy to explain them in more depth without using direct book quotes. I also found the complete CV of Hilde Lindemann on the MSU faculty lists for the Philosophy Department. The current article has a broken link to the CV, so someone reading the page couldn’t find it to reference. I’m using the CV to make sure the lists of grants, awards, and published works are comprehensive and up to date. I am also checking facts to make sure everything is correct according to the info provided in her updated CV. I would like to add more to the background and early life of Hilde, but struggled to find any reliable non-primary sources that would allow me to do this. I am again, just going to verify that the information in the current article matches with the sources I found. One of the book reviews about Holding and Letting Go, Damaged Identities, Narrative Repair includes a bit of background information on Hilde’s education and theories she has played a role in developing that I can add to the article. Overall, I would like to expand the article to include more of Hilde’s philosophical and ethics work, as well as a picture of course.

I plan to add this image:

Image is from official MSU Philosophy Department website: http://www.philosophy.msu.edu/people/faculty/hildelinde mann/

Edits to intro section:

Hilde Lindemann (also Hilde Lindemann Nelson) is an American philosophy professor and bioethicist currently teaching at Michigan State University. Lindemann earned her B.A. in German language and literature (1969), as well as her M.A. in theatre history and dramatic literature (1972) '''at the University of Georgia. Lindemann began her career as a copyeditor for several universities (Interview at 3AM Magazine). She then moved on to a job at the Hastings Center in New York City, an institute focused on bioethics research, and co-authored book The Patient in the Family before deciding to''' earn a Ph.D. in philosophy at Fordham University in 2000.[1] Previously, she taught at the University of Tennessee and Vassar College and served as the associate editor of the Hastings Center Report (1990–95). Lindemann currently teaches courses on feminist philosophy, identity and agency, naturalized bioethics, and narrative approaches to bioethics at Michigan State University.

Addition to "Contributions to Philosophy:"

'''Hilde Lindemann is a narrative ethicist. A narrative approach uses stories and relationships between people in specific cases, as well as generalizable examples, for moral contexts and discussion (Gotlib). Two of her books, Holding and Letting Go: The Social Practice of Personal Identities and Alzheimer's: Answers to Hard Questions for Families, co-authored by her partner James Lindemann Nelson, have various reviews that summarize philosophical theories and ethics demonstrated in her works. The review of Holding and Letting Go: The Social Practice of Personal Identities and Alzheimer's Answer to Hard Questions for Families explains that Lindemann adopts a non-obscure, story-related approach to make readers think about realistic situations: “Only when we see ethical lives as diachronically and interpersonally structured and as embedded in narratively rich contexts can ethical reflection take hold in actual persons’ lives” (Christman). The review of the co-authored book, Alzheimer's: Answers to Hard Questions for Families, also demonstrates that Lindemann employs case studies and life experiences for the patients and caregivers to convey ideas in her work (Moody). This method of provoking thought is aimed at a wide general audience of people who are not necessarily ethics scholars. '''

Addition of a "Quotes on Philosophy" Section: '''Quotes on Philosophy •	“I think it’s a great mistake to see feminism as a war on men. Men aren’t responsible for the subordination of women – they just benefit from it. It’s not politically useful to set men up as the enemy, because that alienates people whom we need as allies. And it perpetuates the victor/vanquished, master/slave relation that’s the whole problem in the first place. If the gender system is ever to be dismantled, it won’t be by declaring war on men. It’s much better to affirm lots of differences among people without insisting that differences have to be ordered into power hierarchies” (Interview at 3AM Magazine 2012). •	“Narrativists have claimed, among other things, that stories of one kind or another are required: (1) to teach us our duties, (2) to guide morally good action, (3) to motivate morally good action, (4) to justify action on moral grounds, (5) to cultivate our moral sensibilities, (6) to enhance our moral perception, (7) to make actions of persons morally intelligible, and (8) to reinvent ourselves as better persons (Nelson 2001, 36).” (Gotib). '''

Addition of a "Recent Courses Taught at Michigan State University" Section:

'''Recent Courses Taught at Michigan State University

Lindemann teaches courses mostly related to topics she has contributed to throughout her career. Courses range from basic philosophy to ethics, bioethics, humanities, and feminist philosophy.

•	Integrative Studies in the Arts and Humanities 231A: Focus on identity and responsibility (Summer 2001, Fall 2002, Spring 2007, Fall 2010) •	Philosophy 200: Introduction to Philosophy (Spring 2001, Fall 2010, Spring 2012, Fall 2013) •	Philosophy 101: Introduction to Philosophy (Spring 2015) •	Philosophy 340: Ethics (Fall 2000, Fall 2002, Spring 2003, Fall 2004, Spring 2010, Spring 2013, Fall 2015) •	Philosophy 344: Ethical Issues in Health Care (Spring 2001, Summer 2005, Fall 2005, Fall 2006, Fall 2009, Fall 2011, Spring 2012, Fall 2013, Spring 2013, Fall 2014, Spring 2015) •	Philosophy 356: Philosophical Aspects of Feminism (Spring 2004, Spring 2006) •	Philosophy 440: Moral Antitheory (Spring 2005); Ethics of Responsibility (Spring 2013) •	Philosophy 456: Topics in Feminist Philosophy (Fall 2009, Fall 2011) •	Philosophy 499: Identity and Agency (Fall 2003) •	Philosophy 800/860 Seminar on Wittgenstein (Fall 2014) •	Philosophy 801: Seminar on Teaching Philosophy (Spring 2008) •	Philosophy 840: Seminar on Moral Particularism (Spring 2003) •	OST 519: medical ethics for 2nd year medical students (Spring 2003) •	Philosophy 850: Seminar on Feminist Philosophy (Fall 2015) •	Philosophy 860: Seminar on Ludwig Wittgenstein (Fall 2014) •	Philosophy 870: Seminar in Narrative Approaches to Bioethics (Fall 2000) •	Philosophy 870: Seminar on the History of Feminist Bioethics (Fall 2007) •	Philosophy 870: Seminar on Naturalized Bioethics (Fall 2010)'''

Addition of a "Selected Honors and Grants" Section:

'''Selected Honors and Grants

Most recently, Hilde Lindemann served as President-Elect (2007–2008) and President (2008–2009) for the American Society of Bioethics and Humanities. She was elected a Hastings Center Fellow in October 2004.

Lindemann has received two NWO (Netherlands Organization for Scientific Research) grants, one of €30,000, plus €3,000 each from Michigan State University, Newcastle University, Uppsala University, and Lübeck University to build a network on the ethics of families and care (2013–2016). The other NWO grant (with Marian Verkerk and Margaret Urban Walker) of €25,000, plus the equivalent of €3,500 each from Michigan State University and Arizona State University, for an international collaboration to produce a bioethics whose moral epistemology and psychology are naturalized and whose ethical focus is on practices of responsibility (2004–2008).

She has also won awards such as the American Society of Bioethics and Humanities Distinguished Service Award (2003) and National Endowment for the Humanities grant to conduct a Summer Seminar for College and University Teachers, entitled “Bioethics in Particular,” $87,000. Project Co-Director (1999–2000). Lindemann was named a Fulbright scholar (1969) and a Woodrow Wilson fellow (1969). '''

Reference correction to current broken CV link:

'''1	Curriculum Vitae of Hilde Lindemann. East Lansing, MI: Michigan State University Department of Philosophy, Sept. 2015. Word Doc.'''

This is a list of sources that I plan on using to improve and expand the article. I also explain how I plan to use them: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abmey (talk • contribs) 18:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Annotated Bibliography Christman, John. "Review of Hilde Lindemann, Holding and Letting Go: The Social Practice of Personal Identities." Rev. of Holding and Letting Go: The Social Practice of Personal Identities, by Hilde Lindemann. American Journal of Bioethics 30 July 2015: W8-W9. Taylor & Francis Online. Web. 15 Mar. 2016. I found this review of Hilde’s book by searching for “Hilde Lindemann” on the MSU Libraries website and clicking on “book review” under the left filter menu. I know MSU Libraries is a search service that provides links to legitimate online databases and journals. The American Journal of Bioethics is a peer-edited verifiable journal, and the author of this article is associated with Penn State University. This is a review of the book Holding and Letting Go: The Social Practice of Personal Identities by Hilde Lindemann. This is a secondary source with information on what her book was about and what views of bioethics are involved. I plan to use this as a source to include more of Hilde’s work in the Wikipedia article without it relying too heavily on primary sources. Currently one of the main issues with her page is that it relies on too many primary sources, so this is a solid way to incorporate more diverse sources. I will take quotes from/paraphrase the article so readers can get a glimpse of one of Hilde’s most popular professional publications. Curriculum Vitae of Hilde Lindemann. East Lansing, MI: Michigan State University Department of Philosophy, Sept. 2015. Word Doc. I found Hilde’s CV by searching through the Michigan State University Faculty page on the Department of Philosophy website. It is a verifiable document since it was posted by Michigan State on Hilde Lindemann’s official page. It contains a list of all of Hilde’s education and jobs from her career in the past, as well as all books. There is a list of all associations she is a part of, grants won, editorial boards, conferences, and teaching history. The list is extensive, and continues for a total of 38 pages. I will use this source to reference any of Hilde’s publications in books, as it provides a list of outside reviews to look at. I can use the education data to make sure the background information on the Wikipedia page is correct and complete. I will also probably add to the page a list of some of the courses Hilde currently teaches at Michigan State, as well as expand the list of awards. Gotlib, Anna. "Feminist Ethics and Narrative Ethics." Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, n.d. Web. 15 Mar. 2016. I had heard of the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy before, so I thought to look for Hilde in an article. This is a reputable source, since it is a well-known peer reviewed philosophy journal. It also has an extensive list of sources that can be verified at the bottom of the page. The article is mainly an overview of feminist ethics. However, since Hilde is such a prominent contributor in the field, it includes a lot of her ideas and some quotes. The article also gives examples of theories that Hilde has worked on. I think I can use this source as one to start a quotes section on the Wikipedia page. Also, I could reference some of the important theories from Hilde’s career. There are quotes from her books that would also be useful to include for the contributions to philosophy section. "Hilde Lindemann." Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, n.d. Web. 15 Mar. 2016. I had also already heard of the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, so I decided to search for “Hilde Lindemann” on the site. It came up with three pages of results that I could use. This is a peer-reviewed reputable and well known source that is quality for use in the Wikipedia article. There were many results, and I could include parts from multiple of them, so I didn’t limit to choosing one to reference here. They are all articles that review Hilde’s work on various aspects of philosophy from bioethics, to pregnancy and birth, to feminist metaphysics perspectives. I would use multiple of these articles to add to a section about Hilde’s work and the different perspectives she participates in so readers can get a broad and accurate view of the work she does. There isn’t much personal information on Hilde from reputable sources, so I think it would be appropriate to expand and focus more on her work. I can also add references of some of the top articles to the end of the Wikipedia page so readers can do further research on any topics related to Hilde they may find interesting. Lindemann, Hilde, PhD. "No Ethics Without Feminism." Interview by Richard Marshall. 3:AM Magazine. 3:AM Magazine, 14 Feb. 2012. Web. 15 Mar. 2016. I found this source as one already cited in the external links of sources for the Wikipedia article for Hilde Lindemann. I can tell this is a published source because it was first published in an online magazine called 3:AM Magazine. It is verifiable and unbiased because it is an interview with direct quotes from Hilde Lindemann. This is an interview with Hilde about some of the books she wrote, such as Holding and Letting Go, Damaged Identities, Narrative Repair. The interview also focuses on her education and career background. She also discusses the difficulties women face in the field and other feminist topics. I will use this source for information on Hilde’s education and her views on feminist ethics issues. This will also give me information on her recent books and what they are about. The current article lacks information on Hilde’s earlier life, so this should help fill in some gaps. Moody, Harry R. "James Lindemann Nelson and Hilde Lindemann Nelson, "Alzheimer's Answer to Hard Questions for Families" (Book Review)." The Journal of Value Inquiry 32.2 (1998): 283. ProQuest. Web. 15 Mar. 2016. I also found this source by searching “Hilde Lindemann” on the MSU Libraries website. I again defined the search to “book reviews” on the left hand side of the page. I am confident that MSU Libraries directs me to legitimate, verifiable sources. This review was originally published in a scholarly peer reviewed journal, The Journal of Value Inquiry. This source contains a review of the book Alzheimer's Answer to Hard Questions for Families co-authored by Hilde and her partner, James Lindemann Nelson. It overviews the topics of morality discussed in the book. The review also talks about some of the narratives explored and how the authors did the research. To use this source in the article, I will add it as another non-primary source to help the article adhere more to Wikipedia’s pillars for sources. It gives me information I can include about Hilde’s moral theories and how she conducts research for her publications. This review will be useful to expand on and verify Hilde’s background in the philosophical field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abmey (talk • contribs) 00:45, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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Deletion
This is one of several pages I have put up for deletion. All of these pages are by the same author (account now deleted), about professors from the same university. While I will assume good faith that it is not the school self-promoting, the fact remains that the only sources for notability on these articles are the professor's own publications and their personal pages on the university's website, which does not meet WP:NOTE. Therefore, I have proposed them for deletion, pending any genuine sources on their notability existing.2601:405:4400:9420:D086:AC36:FF13:3352 (talk) 23:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Being a faculty member of an educational institution, being a recipient of awards, publishing academic work... not sure how those in particular make a living person notable, but I will say that Lindemann was the president of American Society for Bioethics and Humanities. She has relatively notable background, but even so, that position does not distinctly mark her as a notable living person. PerpetuityGrat (talk) 23:54, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * According to the last subsection, it does appear that Lindemann published (or co-published) books rather than academic theses. Perhaps notable. PerpetuityGrat (talk) 00:05, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've removed the PROD. The sourcing is fine for an academic - the notability criteria is at WP:NPROF. Even if you didn't know that the article states she was the president of a scholarly society. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:32, 20 March 2021 (UTC)