Talk:Hillman Library

Split ULS section into its own article?
Anyone opposed to this idea? A question I do have is what should be the name of the ULS article, because "University Library System" is sort of a broad name for Wikipedia since it doesn't indicate that it is the University of Pittsburgh's. Possibilities:
 * 1) University Library System
 * 2) University of Pittsburgh Library System
 * 3) University of Pittsburgh University Library System
 * 4) University Library System of the University of Pittsburgh
 * 5) University Library System (University of Pittsburgh)

Comments and suggestions are welcome. CrazyPaco (talk) 17:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on WP:TITLE, I'd prefer #5. It's the common name stated briefly, but with adequate precision (i.e. disambiguation) tagged on to the end. &mdash;Bill Price (nyb) 20:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Its logo typically has "University of Pittsburgh University Library System", see here. Maybe that is the way to go? CrazyPaco (talk) 07:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's the form on one version of their logo, but in text, their Web site uses the form "University Library System, University of Pittsburgh". See the copyright statement ("© 2010 University Library System, University of Pittsburgh") on the main ULS Web site.  They also use this as the name of the publisher in the footer of all their e-journals. Barkchip (talk) 17:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I also have seen "University Library System, University of Pittsburgh" in databases such as Ulrich's for journals they publish. The publisher list on CrossRef lists them that way as well.Maripozapequena (talk) 19:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, confirmed. They are also listed that way on the Directory of Open Access Journals.  A search for 'Pittsburgh' on the DOAJ site shows the publisher name as "University Library System, University of Pittsburgh".  By the way, I support the creation of a new article.  It seems odd for the parent organization to be described only in the article for one of its children. Barkchip (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree that "University Library System, University of Pittsburgh" is the best title. I think it makes sense to use the version that appears in their copyright statements and that it just reads more clearly that way. There was a lot of ULS specific information in the Hillman article, so it seemed sensible to group that together. I have more information on the ULS that I could include if we decide to split it off into a separate article.Billcarton (talk) 13:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

In looking around the University of Pittsburgh website and in its Factbook, you see the University Library System referred to in a couple of different ways. However, in almost all cases, it look as though the library's website uses "University Library System, University of Pittsburgh." I would favor using the terminology that the institution itself uses. Bayonett (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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