Talk:Hindlip Hall

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I've re edited the article to cut out the lengthy, off-topic history of the Gunpowder Plot that has its own article. I've kept the cut material in this Special Page and will be looking to see if any of it  can be salvaged and integrated into the  main  Gunpowder Plot  article. If anyone opposes this modification, let's talk about it here before just blindly reverting the edit.--Kudpung (talk) 07:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Changing edits
Ummm blindly changing edits ... wouldn't dream of it. Always best to discuss large changes with active editors before making large changes. Best to consult .... um .... well at least we've started the idea now. Yes on a quick examination it appears that a start article has been converted into a stub. Hindlip Hall is not important to the Gunpowder Plot .... its the opposite way round. I don't understand the rationale of the last large change/ deletion. Was it discussed elsewhere? Is it normal to take articles that have been through a consensus process and store them on someones sandbox page? This is odd. Victuallers (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If there has been a previous discussion about keeping the lengthy history of the Gunpopwder Plot in  the article describing  Hindlip hall,  I didn't find it - unless I  have accidentally  deleted more than I  should have. The stub class is in the new Worcs project template, and the article previously  had no  parentage and was not  assessed. If the article is a member of another project, that  project  can also  place its template, and include an assessment  to  the relevance of that project. It is quite normal (and recommended) to keep cut stuff, or stuff in  progress, somewhere, for example in an editor's special pages. The cut material can be easily  seen by  doing a version compare in the article history, and can be reworked by  anyone here: User:Kudpung/gunpowder (from Hindlip). I found the quantity  of material  on  the Gunpowder Plot to  be well  out of propoortion with  the article about the hall, especially  where the Gunpowder Plot has its own article. Duplication of articles, or spreading  info  around over several  articles, is not the purpose of WP pages (if I have understood correctly). Hindlip Hall has of course a history, a long  one too,  but  the Gunpowder Plot is not the history  of the hall, but a part of it,  and that  mention, with  a link to  the main  Gunpowder article, is in it.--Kudpung (talk) 11:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * My point was that I was being asked to have a discussion about a major change by you. When you had not done the same. Its not essential to ask before making large changes but its odd to ask others to give your changes more respect than you showed theirs. The gunpowder plot is not linked or even mentioned. The 1603 plot(sic) is mentioned in the lede but not in the article. The article was not a stub as the DYK template indicates. It may be now according to WP Worcestershire. I'm intrigued that you may think that this article duplicates stuff in the gunpowder plot as I can't find anything about this part of Gunpowder plot anywhere else. The article has a saint found inside and it doesnt even get mentioned.

I feel too biased about this. Suggest you or I ask someone at WP Worcester to decide if the lead up to the events of 1606 at Red Hill, Worcester are notable or not. As they are now removed them from this article which records ownership but ignores that one owner weas nearly on the scaffold with these people. Victuallers (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted to the version with more information, per WP:PRESERVE. There is no reason why that information shouldn't be in there. Jenuk1985 |  Talk  17:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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