Talk:Hip hop based education

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This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Hanz-francis.

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Feedback
I think the headings you have for the article are a good start. What sub-headings have you thought about? Will you cover any type of statistical research on the effectiveness of hip-hop on learning? For a good lead in section I would suggest covering the rise of hip-hop in educational use and perhaps both the positive and negative views of this evolution as well as the statistical outcome of such educational practices.

Kapplet (talk) 19:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Good list of sources...consider some next steps...
I'm glad you have found sources - there is, as you note, many of them. I recommend you take some next steps...


 * What will you name the article?
 * What might you begin to imagine as the sections you would cover?
 * With this list of sources, you will have a good amount of information to synthesize. As soon as you can, try to identify what are common themes in the articles.  These will be the main points of your Wikipedia article.  Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 20:23, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * One more thing. I also made a to-do list of reminders from this week's class conversation.  You may check to see you’ve checked them off by looking at my September 26 post on our course talk page. Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Looking forward to a full draft
Let's talk soon - I want to help you make some progress on this! I see ideas from an article found here: [http://www.academia.edu/1126107/Musicking_in_the_city_Reconceptualizing_Urban_Music_Education_as_Cultural_Practice about HHBE. ]Be sure to cite it. Please get in touch! Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 23:21, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

11.15.13 feedback
I am so glad to see this progress! You demonstrate a growing expertise in HBBE and I encourage you to keep going and take it to its completion.

I sense that you want to critique the literature on HBBE. In order to present a debate on a topic, you will need to find articles that make the points you are wishing to make, such as the assumed homogeneity of hip hop fans, the problem with conceptualizing of the “urban classroom”, or the lack of reaching enough K-12 teachers in the reading. These statements need substantiation and a neutral tone in order to include them. The framework for WP articles is a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]. It can be challenging to write for this standard, but it means that any opinion, like where you write “this has been proven false,” needs to be from a verifiable source and also, if it exists, contrasted with the opposing viewpoint.

Another important next step is to work on revising the lead paragraph. I would recommend looking at the introductions to all of the articles, webpages, and additional sources you have. The introductions should highlight the key important elements of the research on HBBE. Then, I would recommend your jotting down on a piece of paper: what are the most important points these articles emphasize? These are the ideas you will add to your lead article. For example, this sentence from your outcomes section might go in the lead paragraph, “Integrating hip-hop into academic curriculum gives youth more interest in education and promotes literacy. Literacy itself is an intervention to high school drop out rates, teen pregnancy, and other social ills. HHBE advocates believe that hip-hop can be used in classrooms to inspire youth to be agents of social and political.” The citations will need to be done before Wednesday in order for the article to go live that night.

The article we read for class named two benefits to HBBE: cultural relevance to youth of color, affirmation of urban identities, and deeper learning through connection with something relevant to youth. How might you include or discuss these items in your article?

The positive and negative outcomes are evaluations of the literature about HBBE rather than facts about positive and negative results of HBBE. How might you revise this? Might you classify outcomes based on what is discussed in the literature.

I am not clear how the “hip hop artists as role models” fits. How is this related to HBBE? My understanding is that HBBE is curriculum, while the artists are ones whose work mentions education. Are these the same?

Edit so you are paraphrasing or directly quoting to avoid plagiarism. I found several instances where the words were. This is of utmost importance.

The examples of HBBE are a great addition, just work to paraphrase or quote.

Keep up the work! Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 22:32, 15 November 2013 (UTC)