Talk:Hird

Nasjonal Samling's hird
Perhaps hird deserves its own article, since the name was reused by Nasjonal Samling? Fornadan (t) 12:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Good point. The problem here is that the basic meaning is "team of housecarls", and NS referred to this basic meaning. It would be like having two articles on the same subject.--Wiglaf 14:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

You are sure "hird" means the same as "team of houscarls"? I thought the guests were considered to be houscarls, but not hirdmen. Fornadan (t) 15:54, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Your doubts made me check with Nordisk familjebok. It has an excellent article on hird], and it says that the members of the hird were formerly called huscarls, but that Olaf the Holy introduced housecarl as a separate category from hirdmen, within the hird. Frankly, this article should be translated and included in the housecarl article.--Wiglaf 16:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

That article looks very comprehensive. As for primary sources, we should probably refer to the King's Mirror. Fornadan (t) 16:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, but on the other hand, if the hird was a specifically Norwegian term it could very well be an article on its own, now that we have so much information. I'll leave the decision to you, as you suggested it.--Wiglaf 16:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I strongly agree that the NS Hird should get its own article. Geschichte (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Hirth.
>The term comes from Old Norse hirð, again from either Old English hir(e)d 'household, family, retinue, court'[3] or perhaps the old German cognate heirat 'marriage', both of which can mean "body of men".

These suppositions just add random letters and call it fact. Pronounce the word hir(th). Men of your hir(th). Hir(th)men. Would it not stand to reason the better conclusion would be 'hearth', men from your campfire, or hall - given that these men are housecarls of sorts? 121.210.33.50 (talk) 04:06, 20 March 2018 (UTC)