Talk:His Last Vow

Mark Gattiss
The BBC do not list him as co-writter for this episode here but is listed as Executive Producer. He his however writer / co-writer on the first two episodes1, 2. I think its highly dubious that he is in fact co-writer on this episode. The initial Radio Times source didn't include him as co-writer either and i think the one added is highly likely mixed up. Blethering  Scot  13:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * We'll find out on Sunday. I have no problem removing it until then. Mat  ty  .  007  13:52, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Just read this in the Sherlock article: "Moffat and Gatiss each write one episode per series, with the other written by Stephen Thompson", so removed Gatiss for now. Mat  ty  .  007  13:57, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think thats fair enough, if he is in the credits then we can re-add him. Blethering  Scot  14:03, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Sunday
I know that this episode airs on Sunday, and that there will be a massive amount of editing, with a plot far too big. So, for people who look at the talk page before editing, please add only the essential plot details, otherwise it is possible they will be removed, thus your editing time has been wasted. Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 11:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

TV.com
Why do we need to know what a small site with 40 votes thinks about His Last Vow? Mat ty. 007 20:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * While we're at it, I think that we don't normally use IMDB (correct me if I'm wrong), only Rotten Tomatoes. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  20:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't personally see why any of them should be used including Rotten Tomatoes, but hey they generally are. However TV.Com certainly isn't notable enough, nor has a high enough vote rate to be comparable or representative enough of general opinion to be included and should be removed. Blethering  Scot  20:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That was also my opinion, the IP who added both IMDB and TV.com simply adds them if I remove them. I gave him a TB to this page, so he has no excuse if he doesn't reply. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  20:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've raised this here, as the IP won't let the sites be removed. Mat  ty  .  007  20:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Sources and allusions
This is getting out of hand, IPs are adding the faintest possible links, with no sources, and simply re-adding them. If something is added, it needs a source. Mat ty. 007 11:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Addition
Pinging and : what I see (and what I presume Mezigue sees too) is the addition of Mycroft refers to "my colleague" having said, "This country will sometimes need a blunt instrument," a reference to MI6's head M in the James Bond stories having said that about 007, but goes on to say that the country will also sometimes need a dagger, that is, his brother Sherlock Holmes as unsourced dubious trivia, way outside of the bounds of what we include in an article. Also, per WP:BRD, you should have discussed it after either the first or second revert by two different people. Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 17:33, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Correct. Mezigue (talk) 19:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Some pointers

 * "This leads the pair into conflict with Charles Augustus Magnussen (Lars Mikkelsen), a "terrifying"[2] villain; Magnussen was introduced as the main villain of series 3, "the one man Sherlock truly hates"." -avoid quotes, I'd reword as "This leads the pair into conflict with villain Charles Augustus Magnussen (Lars Mikkelsen), a character which was introduced as the main villain of series 3, whom Sherlock despises."
 * "The title of "His Last Vow" is a play on the title of "His Last Bow", the final Sherlock Holmes story chronologically (though not the last published). " -citation needed
 * "Some filming was in Cardiff,[18] and some in Leinster Gardens" -avoid using "some" in this context which looks scruffy and repetitive.

Overall it looks in good shape. It's not easy making contemporary TV episodes sound "encyclopedic" but I've think you've done the best you can for it. I'd ask somebody who regularly works on TV articles for some input and see what they think.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the pointers Dr, attempted fix of all. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  12:58, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

"Titular" and "eponymous"
I didn't think this was particularly controversial, but it appears that at least one person disagrees sufficiently to revert me, so I shall explain:

The person or thing after which some new thing is named is named is that new thing's eponym. As such, Romeo and Juliet are the eponymous characters of Romeo and Juliet.

It has apparently become fashionable of late to substitute the word "titular" for "eponymous", but this is a proscribed usage. In its correct meaning, "titular" refers to nominal titles; one could say that Elizabeth II is the titular queen of the United Kingdom (and Australia, and Canada, etc.) because she does not in fact rule those countries as absolute monarch.

I replaced such a proscribed usage of "titular" with the correct "eponymous". I do not know why Mezigue has claimed "titular" to be correct, but I can see no benefit to using a proscribed term over the corresponding prescribed term, and as such have re-instated my edit. Magic9mushroom (talk) 04:09, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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