Talk:Hispanidad

Spanish-speaking nations that are missing
Andorra, Belize and Western Sahara (the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic) are also Spanish speaking nations with Spanish as an official language or official regional language. Why are they not in the list? They are also part of the Spanish-speaking world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.108.19.253 (talk) 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic should definitely be included, since its official languages are Arabic and Spanish but unfortunately it is not recognized by every country, hence why it omitted entirely. Andorra and Belize, although they have Spanish-speaking majorities, their respective countries do not have Spanish as an official language, this is why they are excluded. The Philippines, although it no longer speaks Spanish, it should be included for historically pertaining to the Hispanic world. The Philippines is a Hispanic nation that doesn't speak Spanish. I will try to see if we can add the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Viller the Great (talk) 07:15, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Other Spanish Speaking Populations in Africa are missing
During the 1800 Cuban slaves repatriated to Nigeria and became known as Amaros, then fused with the Saros populations. They formerly spoke a a very creolized form of Spanish. While I am uncertain of any modern day prevalence of this dialect in Nigeria, I do know that a certain pidgin dialect spoken in Nigeria contains remnants of the Spanish Language.

Angola also has a community of Afro-Cubans, these are descendants of Afro-Cuban soldiers brought to the country in 1975 as a result of the Cuban involvement in the Cold War. Fidel Castro deployed thousands of troops to the country during the Angolan Civil War. As a result of this era, there exists a small Spanish-speaking community in Angola of Afro-Cubans numbering about 100,000.

Spanish as a mother tongue
Second only to Chinese. I question this as nearly half the population of India (over 400m) speak Hindi. Also, the wiki entry on English states that a similar number (390m) speak English as a first language as Spanish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBobKent (talk • contribs) 13:33, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

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The "total revamp" version of this article by Asqueladd is politically biased
It is filled with ideology, biased and political agenda terms and sentences, pursuing a "negative" view of the Hispanicity. Compare version of 2015 with this. Nagihuin (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I really don't pursue anything (WP:AGF). The term is indeed fundamentally ideological. I can indeed compare both versions.--Asqueladd (talk) 21:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Added tag. Waiting for moderation. Nagihuin (talk) 22:02, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. By the way, in the former version I see an infra-referenced entry with no single source talking about "Hispanidad" (beyond laughable, really). In the later I see practically every source is a secondary source and talks about "Hispanidad".--Asqueladd (talk) 21:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi again, Nagihuin. Reading the NPOV template documentation particularly the part about when to remove it I see both #2 and #3 rationales would apply here as I do not think a satisfactory explanation other than WP:IDONTLIKEIT has been given and the discussion has been mostly dormant. Regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 10:08, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Nagihuin, to justify this tag, you'll need to be a lot more specific than just saying it's biased. What sections in particular do you find problematic? Can you give us concrete examples of issues you have? Valenciano (talk) 10:22, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


 * To be honest re-reading the text looking for the attacks to neutrality, now I read "Further development of the concept of Hispanidad had to wait for the 1920s, when a group of intellectuals moved by the ideas of extreme right thinker Charles Maurras rescued the term" the mention to Charles Maurras is probably somewhat undue as the only unequivocally maurrasian intellectual mentioned in the text is José María Salaverría and he did not use the term explicitly, but the idea of community. I would look again if the source mentions the maurrasian authors (Maeztu is arguably influenced by Maurras although he is probably not unequivocally maurrasian). Depending on that, the statement may need to be re-arranged--Asqueladd (talk) 10:43, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Two different meanings?
I come here without any knowledge of the use of the term "hispanidad", but from this article I get the impression that there are two quite different meanings, both of which are used (as supported by links in the article, e.g. this link from Spain ). One is simply "Spanishness"; the other is more or less "the community of people with links ultimately to Spain" or "the Spain-related world". If this is correct, then the article should make this clear.

Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 22:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)