Talk:Historic Cherokee settlements/Archive 1

Congratulations
This looks excellent, GenQuest! It's a really good idea to have an overall view of the settlements. Thanks for your work! I came across an interesting article by an historian from the Cherokee Nation that might also be useful for us on this topic. (Now must find it again.)Parkwells (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! GenQuest  "scribble" 23:23, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion to retitle
Perhaps the article could be retitled as "Historic Cherokee settlements". Although I had just looked at it, when I put in a search, this article did not come up (yes, should have just used my history section.) But this title uses "Cherokee" earlier and might help more people find this very useful article.Parkwells (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I made the first sentence title in bold consistent with the name of the article. I think the text defines it sufficiently.Parkwells (talk) 23:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Question about leading with Overhill towns
Since Kituwa is considered the original settlement of the Cherokee people, wouldn't it be appropriate for the discussion and listing of towns to start with the Middle Towns (including the Valley and Outer towns)? Parkwells (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * In addition, as a note to editors, I've just started working on the Kituwa article again, based on content in a 2009 article in American Archeology , which shows how the EBCI have used archeological resources to learn more history about the ancient town and to make decisions for this site, and others for which they have review responsibility. Have not done enough yet for thorough review but would appreciate your insight.Parkwells (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the list was generated by the order in which the sources lead and then compiled as alphabetically as possible. Many settlement names were used multiple times and various locations. The list reflects the most well known and able to be sourced locations. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 21:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made the adjustment to the prose. I made the list sortable, so I'm not too concerned with positions in the list part.  More worried about getting the site locations right, especially with the duplicated named settlements.  Thanks to all for the input, esp.  A Rose Wolf  for prior help with separating the dupes in article development.   GenQuest  "scribble" 23:22, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This is all about you and the hard work you put into this article. It's really amazing and I honestly believe it is the most comprehensive list of historic Cherokee settlements anywhere on the web. Thank you for putting in the time and allowing me to assist you with it as much as I did. I am not joking when I say that it probably is one of my highlights and definitely the most pure enjoyment I have had during my time here. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 13:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, GenQuest, reminding me it is sortable. Making your way through the many spelling variations and dupes was quite a feat! Thank you both! Parkwells (talk) 19:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

 * The Lead of the article refers to the 2100 Cherokee in villages east of the Blue Ridge Mountains (my bolding) - this is an important addition as there were more Cherokee living in the Overhill Towns.Parkwells (talk) 16:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Yay, I am so excited for the article. You did right by nominating it. It's such a huge honor to even be considered for DYK. Again, wonderful work, Gen. <3 <3 -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 15:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Use definition of town groups with more about rivers?
According to a 2016 article in the Cherokee Phoenix, Anita Finger Smith (EBCI), genealogist and historian, has a slightly different definition of the town groupings, especially among the Middle/Valley/Out Towns in Western North Carolina, based on the rivers they bordered. She defined the Valley Towns as those along the upper Hiwassee, Nantahala, and Valley rivers. The Middle Towns were along the upper Little TN River and its tributaries, and included Nikwasi, Watauga (both recently acquired by the EBCI) and others. The Out Towns were along the Oconaluftee and Tuckaseegee rivers, and included Kituwa on the latter. Why don't I try to work this material into this article and see what you think? Parkwells (talk) 19:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Go for it, Thanks, P. GenQuest  "scribble" 01:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)