Talk:Historical armorial of U.S. states from 1876

Still a work in progress...
Please bear with me for a week or two. The goal is to take this to FLC.--Godot13 (talk) 22:48, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Number   5  7  21:57, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876 → Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states – no need to delimit by date as not all depictions postdate this-better to leave it open. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose moving-- Seeing as the article was written to highlight the book State Arms of the Union (published in 1876) the specifying date is important. In addition, without the date, the list article lacks the scope necessary to remain focused on a specific period or the illustrations prepared by Mitchell & Prang, and the list would be unlikely to achieve completion.-Godot13 (talk) 16:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment the current name is highly misleading; I thought it meant all changes in coats of arms starting from 1876, whereas it appears to show coats of arms from 1776 until 1876. The proposed rename would also be misleading, since it would also imply the list included arms later than 1876. jnestorius(talk) 09:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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Seal without a coat of arms
"A coat of arms may exist independently of a seal, but the reverse is not generally the case" -- what is the context for that claim? In the British tradition, a corporate body can have a seal, but a coat of arms can only be granted by a herald. The Local Government (Ireland) Act 1898 required the new administrative counties to create seals immediately. but their coats of arms were not granted by the Chief Herald of Ireland till decades later. jnestorius(talk) 09:22, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Is it dubious despite the reference cited?--Godot13 (talk) 09:39, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ...despite the four references cited?--Godot13 (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There is only one reference cited, "Costume of Prelates of the Catholic Church: According to Roman Etiquette", which I cannot access from outside the US. It may well be that US state usage differs from British usage (it may equally well be that both differ from Roman Catholic usage) but if so then the bald statement made in the article needs to be appropriately qualified. jnestorius(talk) 10:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The next two sentences refer to the statement and have another three references. But, for the time being, what if I began the sentence with "A state coat of arms..." to differentiate from non-US heraldry (huge differences with UK heraldry being much more regulated)?--Godot13 (talk) 10:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sound good, thanks. jnestorius(talk) 11:47, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Qualifier added, tag removed, all good...--Godot13 (talk) 11:53, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

FPC
The images from the book highlighted in the article (State Arms of the Union) have been nominated as a Featured Picture set. Comments are welcome through 27 September 2014. --Godot13 (talk) 16:23, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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