Talk:History of Alpha Phi Omega in the Philippines

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http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=default&cmd=get&id=83 It all started with a service project. World War II had recently ended, but it had left its devastation around the world. The major cities of Europe had been heavily damaged, and many of the cities of Asia and the Pacific had been destroyed. Manila, the capital of the former US colony Philippines had been occupied and was now in ruins; its universities, rubble. What, if anything, could college students across the Pacific in the United States do that would have any real effect? It turns out, quite a lot!

Some of the Alpha Phi Omega-USA Brothers in Texas and the Pacific Northwest had fought in these islands. They knew, firsthand, of the friendliness of the people and of their need. They knew that education of the young people was a vital necessity if the country was to get back to its feet. They could do something, and they did. Book drives were started on their campuses and hundreds of textbooks, used but useable, were gathered from their libraries and fellow students to be sent to the Philippines to help re-stock the many burnt-out college libraries in Manila.

It was a successful service project, but like many one-time projects, it was soon forgotten, remembered only in the scrapbooks of the chapters involved and in the mind of the then APO-USA National President (1931-1946) H. Roe Bartle “The Chief”. It was a good example of a service project; it had all of the elements of a good story; and the Chief never forgot a good story. Time passed. It was January 1950, and (2) Sol George Levy (Gamma Alpha ’47), a professional scout, an APhiO at the University of Washington in Seattle, Washington and a friend of Dr. Bartle, was going to the Philippines to help generate more interest among the Scouts here. The Chief told him what APO had done a few years earlier to help re-establish Filipino university libraries. One January evening that year, scouts in Manila were invited to a conference by Mr. Levy. He passed on the story to them, mentioning how nice it would be if a Scouting-based fraternity similar to Alpha Phi Omega could be established in the country. He expessed his desire to organize Alpha Phi Omega, and distributed some copies of three APO publications: Questions and Answers, National Constitution and By-laws, and Ritual Rites and Ceremonies. The story was of particular interest to a group of Scouts at Far Eastern University in Manila. It may be that their library was one of those which had been helped, or it may be that the idea of a Scouting-based fraternity just struck fertile ground. Librado I. Ureta, an Eagle Scout, a graduate student, and was among the audience; together with a group of over twenty Scouts and advisors began organizing work.

Alpha Phi Omega rapidly and healthily grew in the Philippines. In its third year, it became a national organization with seven chapters chartered in Manila and Visayan campuses. It was registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission as a non-stock, non-profit, non-dividend corporation with a registered name of Alpha Phi Omega International Collegiate Service Fraternity.


 * Text on page is still copyvio and should be removed.Naraht (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Rationale for moving page
Just to explain, my rationale for moving this article from Alpha Phi Omega (Philippines) to History of Alpha Phi Omega in the Philippines is more of a semantic issue. While I recognize that both APO-USA and APO-RP are separate and distinct entities operating separately under the overall "umbrella" of Alpha Phi Omega as a whole, when people search Wikipedia for "Alpha Phi Omega", that main article should be all-encompassing, not only covering APO-USA, but also covering APO-RP as well. So, I don't think we want to individual articles on both national organizations, especially if the introduction is going to be very similar (or even the same?), and with the same infobox. This just seems redundant. What we do want to cover, and what is certainly 110% notable and encyclopedic, is the branching out of our organization into another nation, based on the same ideals set forth by Frank Reed Horton in 1925. So, from the historic standpoint, that's what this article should focus on -- start with the founding of APO-RP in ca. 1950, moving forward to the present day. And all of these historic aspects should be covered -- past national presidents and/or board, notable members (celebrities) that have joined, past national conventions -- this is all history. If we were to set the standard of Alpha Phi Omega (Philippines), we should also create an article for Alpha Phi Omega (United States), for that respective national organization. Though that seems like it would be horribly redundant with a lot of the information in the main article. Dr. Cash (talk) 14:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Better to have the discussion here than our individual talk pages, I think.... There is quite a bit about the APO-Philippines such as its organizational structure that belongs on an APO-Phil page that doesn't really belong on a (by default) more APO-USA centric page. While organizations do not control their own wikipedia pages, the APO-Philippines office is quite aware of the current situation on the pages and has no problem with a completely separate page with Alpha Phi Omega going to the USA organization by default. In my opinion, all of the Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines information should be moved to a single page, with a link to the page at the appropriate point in the APO-USA history, a link back to the main APO page at the beginning of the APO-Phil History and links to each other under information on ICAPO, most of which should be on the main APO page. This sort of separation would, I think encourage the type of complete run through that the main APO article needs. (In terms of external links, the only one that I can find that isn't in the infobox or in the further information is the link for APO-USA chapters, and I'm working to build a wikipedia page for the APO-USA chapters, which should take care of that.)

Scouts Royale Brotherhood
The addition of a mention of Scouts Royale Brotherhood in regards to Alpha Phi Omega and on which page (Alpha Phi Omega/History of Alpha Phi Omega in the Philippines is currently taking place on Talk:Alpha Phi Omega . Please discuss any proposed additions there.Naraht (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)