Talk:History of Central European forests

Sources, style
The article doesn’t include citations for most claims. The makeshift outline at the beginning of the History section seemed odd Semmra7 (talk) 05:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)


 * the article was originally translated from German Wikipedia where they used to be less fussed about inline citations. However, I see their current article is more comprehensively cited, so feel free to update this one in that light. Bermicourt (talk) 19:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Horrible messaging
The section on the use of forests in the Middle Ages mindlessly repeats old, traditional narratives about forest use and, in my view, lacks the appropriate nuance. Certainly there was overgrazing and overexploitation during this period, but much of this can be attributed to the Industrial Revolution, which caused an increase in population for which the medieval system was not suited. The result was severe overstocking and over-exploitation. Scholars of the 19th and 20th centuries then made the grave mistake of attributing these management failures to the medieval system as a whole. And to this day, this narrative is repeated without reflection. How is it that the medieval system of the commons, in which wood pasture, coppice, etc. were commonplace, was so detrimental, when it obviously worked well for centuries?

On top of that the whole paragraph works without a single source to back up these claims. --AndersenAnders (talk) 11:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * See the above section; it was translated from German Wikipedia. You are clearly an expert on this topic, so should have no difficulty re-crafting it and adding reliable sources. Bermicourt (talk) 14:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * In retrospect, I would like to apologise for my tone. First and foremost, I felt irritated by the tone of said section and this was not a well thought out response to it. I will attempt to impove the quality of content as soon as I can. AndersenAnders (talk) 15:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries. I had hoped the original German text might have been updated and referenced, but sadly it hasn't. Looking forward to your input. Bermicourt (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2022 (UTC)