Talk:History of East Germany

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The text of this article was funded by the US army. So much for NPOV. Anyhow, I suppose it is biased on some level throughout, but some of it is incredibly biased and wrong. One example is its description of democratic centralism, which is very biased and POV. Ruy Lopez 19:07, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Here's a great paragraph - "The SED imposed conformity to Marxist-Leninist ideology on the educational system, the press, social organizations, and cultural institutions. In order to guarantee the party's dominance within the state, all members of the SED who were active in state organs were obliged to carry out party resolutions. The State Security Service (Staatssicherheitsdienst, better known as the Stasi) and the Ministry of State Security monitored public life with a broad network of agents and contributed to eliminating opposition and regimenting political and social affairs."

Talking about ideological conformity to ideology on the educational system, the press, social organizations, and cultural institutions, we're using a text here that was funded by the US army. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Then it describes the Stasi as some monumental unusual thing, as if the US didn't have it's own FBI and Secret Service running around bugging Martin Luther King's bedroom and sending him threatening letters because he wanted free elections in the United States. Ruy Lopez 19:23, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * The key point about the pot calling the kettle black is that both are black... Rd232


 * And what's wrong with expecting the members of a party to carry out its resolutions? People who have fundamental disagreements with a party should leave it. Shorne 05:52, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * You're kidding, right? GDR was for most purposes a one-party state, certainly in career terms - if you wanted to get ahead, you (held your nose if necessary and) joined. Anyway, the German versions of this and related entries naturally have more info and better balance, so I'll do some translations in due course and hopefully we can then lose the dispute tag. Rd232 11:38, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've just noticed that the article doesn't mention the building of the Berlin Wall (though it does mention its fall). Clearly still a work in progress then, despite my cleanup of the financial situation... Rd232 23:25, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Just noticed that the article History of the German Democratic Republic was moved under its title via cut&paste (talk page redirects to here). Not knowing the regulations about this on en:wp, I´d yet like to give my consent for a proper moving. --213.54.223.60 17:08, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No mention of "40 Jahre 1989"
 Hm, all East German history articles seem to leave out the 40th anniversary of the Republic.  They go from "Hungary opens its borders" to "the Wall fell," which makes it almost sound as if protests starting the night of the 40th anniversary had nought to do with it

I'm surprised that this article doesn't even mention the 40th (and final) birthday celebration of the GDR. From what I understand, this was when the larger pro-democracy protests started, especially in East Berlin itself. Mike H (Talking is hot) 16:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

The history is too "economic"
we have to write more about other topics and not only economic one. the death of wilhelm Pieck for example is not mentioned. 62.0.209.167 10:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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GDR was a wall, not a country
The article doesn't tell that GDR was a wall, not a country.When the Berlin wall fell, in 1989, GDR became doomed.Agre22 (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)agre22

-Technically it was a state. Not a country, an artifically created state that collapsed as soon as the people of the country (Germany) were asked whether or not they wanted one state for their one country. They did.

Population
It states that the population started at 19 million and decreased throughout the history of the state. So why does it also say that up to 20 million women were raped? There would never have been half as many women in the whole state at any one time; this estimate is therefore completely redundant. Either that or the population estimates are wrong. Can someone please find better figures? Or perhaps this occurred over decades; in which case could we figure out a percentage? It seems to me to be important that the scale of the atrocity is made clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.223.140 (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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