Talk:History of Microsoft Flight Simulator

Need more pictures
The article needs screenshots of FS 3.0, FS 5.0, FS98, FS2002 and FSX to be complete (picture wise). If that sounds too much, the 11 screenshots can be put in a gallery section of their own. ---Majestic- 21:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The FS4 photo should be replaced too. It's poor quality, although is a little cool in that it shows of FS3 and FS4 at the same time.--Anss123 23:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Aircraft Comparison
I've added FS1.0 through FS4.0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.173.223 (talk) 10:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think the learjet was included in FS2. -- GIR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.81.141 (talk) 11:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree I have flight simulator amd manual for ibm pc dated 1984 (4 color version) and there was no learjet. Also it included the wwI simulation - LJC  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.23.142.232 (talk) 22:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Why a gallery?
I'm just wondering, why are the screenshots of FS1-10 in a gallery? Wouldn't it be better to align each next to its corresponding version? I'd do it but I'm not sure if it's intended or not. -- Razor ICE  03:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you're right, I agree it would be better if each picture was aligned to it's respective FS version. -- Rehnn83 Talk 07:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

New FS1 animation
Hello, I am offering you a new subLOGIC Flight Simulator 1 for Apple II animation gif. Just use it if you like it. It is available here: http://web.telecom.cz/josef.havlik/A2-FS1.gif It has the same resolution as current one on the site. Regards, Josef — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.81.13 (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes that animation is a good deal better than mine. I had no clue what I was doing, and was happy I got the plane in the air. I’ll assume you're aware of Wikipedia's rather liberal license, and that your image will crop up on commercial sites?
 * I would have preferred a size of 180x113 (same as the other images), but we'll take it.
 * --Anss123 15:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Fan site? Rewrite?
Who put the fan site and rewrite tags on this article? Would you care to explain why you thought this article is like a fan site and needs a rewrite? Otherwise, I'm removing the tags. --Vossanova o&lt; 17:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that three tags at the start of the article is a bit excessive. The user in question was Wikihermit.
 * --Anss123 18:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that any of the tags are appropiate. The article (to me) does not appear as a fan site. As for citations - yes perhaps there could be more - but to tag the article as being totally un-cited/un-referenced is wrong. As for a complete re-write - I'm not so sure, yes the article can still be improved but as for re-writing it I disagree. -- Rehnn83 Talk 10:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As no Explanation for the tags has been given (and no support offered I have removed them. -- Rehnn83 Talk 15:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Microsoft Flight Simulator 3.0 screenshot.png
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FS1 screenshots
The image posted of FS1 is in fact (I think) FS2 for DOS. Here is a shot of FS1:

http://jinayang.myweb.uga.edu/edit6100/resources/images/taks3/games/appleflight-thumb.jpg

page this image is from:

http://jinayang.myweb.uga.edu/edit6100/task3_3.htm

Sblument (talk) 04:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

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FSX image
The FSX image really doesn't do justice to what FSX can actually do. I could do a better picture but really still not the best it can be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CipherPixel (talk • contribs) 10:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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End of Flight simulator?
I noticed thee BBC says flight simulator will be discontinued (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7902468.stm). I don't know if this is true, and don't know anything about flight simulator, I just thought I'd bring it up. Armoured Rabbit (talk) 22:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Please, correct few serious mistakes here.
The Microsoft Flight Simulator 2 box cover here is not the right cover. It is the subLOGIC Flight Simulator II for Apple II cover. The right cover is for example here http://www.volny.cz/havlikjosef/coversenglish.htm

The Microsoft Flight Simulator 1.00 for IBM PC has already 4 colors (on color composite monitors only. So it was not only monochromatic. The proof picture is here http://www.volny.cz/havlikjosef/historyenglish.htm

The frame rate of the A2-FS1 animated picture is NOT fairly consistent with the simulator running on original hardware. I made the picture, so I must know.

Also, Microsoft Flight is not and was never intended by Microsoft, to be a "flight simulator". It also was not intended to "replace flight simulator". Per Microsoft, it was a flying game, intended to bring new people into the realm of flying on the computer (aka, it was itnended to bring in more money than they did with flight simulator....it didn't work). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.217.70 (talk) 05:38, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * You are encouraged to be bold and resolve any issues you see, remembering to provide reliable sources. - Rushyo  Talk  12:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Aircraft add-ons
I'm concerned about the recent additions of aircraft in the table at the bottom of the article, which are only included in third party add-ons such as those from Mallard. I think this opens the door for anyone to include any aircraft included in any third party addons, which could count into the hundreds. I think we can get away with mentioning *some* of the more notable add-ons in the paragraphs, but I would like to remove any non-Microsoft aircraft from the table. --Vossanova o&lt; 17:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what aircraft are you referring to? as far as I know they are all in one or more versions of Flight Simulator? FFMG (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * See History of Microsoft Flight Simulator - Beechcraft Baron 55, North American T-6D Texan, and Northrop T-38 Talon, for example, and these footnotes:
 * AF – Aircraft is included together with the Aircraft Factory add-on for FS4.
 * FSFS – Aircraft is included together with the Flight Simulator Flight Shop add-on for FS5.
 * AF99 – Aircraft is included together with the Aircraft Factory 99 add-on for FS98. --Vossanova o&lt; 20:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Section -- Aircraft in Microsoft Flight Simulator and Lockheed Martin Prepar3D
Is this section really needed in the article? Seems a little gameguidish to me. 50.178.161.154 (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll comment here - I do agree that this table falls within the realm of WP:GAMEGUIDE and so I will remove it on that basis.    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 02:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, finally getting some consensus on this. I tried to remove it in the past, but it keeps getting put right back in. TheWizardOfAhz (talk) 03:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Table, FS9 and B737
It's stated that it's an Boeing 737-400. But the included B737 it's not any perticular B737. Instead the Boeing 737 serves as a kind of base jet airliner cockpit, and as a provider of jet engine sounds and basic gauges. There are many different B737-X00 to download as add-ons for FS9 though. Boeing720 (talk) 19:19, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I will provide new/better pictures if you please
I am up to providing new pictures in higher resolution and PNG format of all Flight Simulator versions mentioned here, specially for the old ones. The pictures will consist of the each version running with maxed out graphics, showing their capabilities, and aspect ratio correction on for some versions of Flight Simulator that need it these days. Torturephile (talk) 08:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * That is not needed. We have to restrict the resolution of the images used as they are copyrighted. Please see WP:FAIRUSE and more specifically WP:IMAGERES for more information. Bjelleklang -  talk 09:54, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, OK. They would have been made by me but I would have released them as public domain. Thanks for the quick answer. Torturephile (talk) 06:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)