Talk:History of North America/Archive 1

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I think this article needs a bit more about the first Spanish settlements (and other early settlements). There is some discussion about English settlements, after all. I realize this is a summary overview, so I guess we can dig this from the individual articles referenced on the page. I'll do it myself if nobody else does it first, when I feel less lazy. :) Martijn faassen 18:54, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Wanna take a look at Spanish colonization of the Americas ? :-) -- PFHLai 03:52, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)

I think that this site should fricken actually tell you about histoy in the 1990's, i meen geez i've been trying to do my homework for hours now!!!

Take a look as well at Spanish Florida. The info in this page is only wrong by more than a century!

Problem with list of main articles
Why are the articles about US history listed in the first place? What is the rationale behind this? Those articles should be listed alphabetically, not discretionally. Alex  Cov   ( Let's talk! ) 09:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Does the history of north America start with the europeans?
Why does not the article discuss the history of this part of America before the arrival of europeans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.122.30.254 (talk) 23:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I would assume the the history of North America would focus on it the geological aspects of how the continent was created, not necessarily the human (specifically European) influence over the last 500 years. This article should be merged with other history articles or should be re-written with little focus on the European history. Basically, this article needs to be sub-categorized with this main article only highlighting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.86.116.111 (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Latino template

 * Please help with the  Latino template.  --JuanMuslim 1m 18:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Christopher Columbus owned a boat(??) who received orders from the royale family Queen Ferdinand to go about and discover the new world. He left and went about his trekking through the unchartered waters towards where he came to South America. Then progressed to North America but not reaching above the Gulf waters.<#:42am> te —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.189.87 (talk) 07:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Grammer & Spelling
I have noticed several careless grammer and spelling mistakes on this page. Could someone go through and fix them? 72.39.253.150 18:53, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

The irony is that you yourself have misspelled "grammar". Shall we fix that too? 208.65.64.18 (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Misleading Article Title
Shouldn't this article be titled "Ethnographic History of North America" or "Anthropological History of North America"? I came across this article while searching for the way in which the landmass of North America was formed. Which is part of its history.

I recommend changing the article's title to something more accurate. Mattyleg (talk) 16:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I concur most wholeheartedly!! I know there was once a massive northerly-southerly seaway west of the Rockies but I forgot the name, and now I'm having trouble finding it again. Where's Geologic history of North America?? Xaxafrad (talk) 04:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I was precisely just now looking for such an article... 76.10.128.192 (talk) 06:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Expansion time
So, I want to improve this article, as it's ranked highly in importance, yet lacks content, and I love history and research for it. I have a strong understanding of American history and history writing techniques, so this will be fun and productive. The article should reflect similar types of histories of continents, such as History of Europe, likely the best example. I understand concerns from above points of people seeing geological history, but this article is for the history of the populations of the continent, like the European article above and others, such as Africa and Asia.

This is generally what I see needs to be done:

1. A new, thorough lead section. I've begun work on this.

2. Revision of the Native American, pre-colonial history. This section looks acceptable as is, but expansion is always helpful.

3. Possible expansion of the Colonial Era section. It seems lacking at the moment. The French-Indian War deserves more attention, for example.

4. Much more content for all subsequent, modern sections.

Content in this article should discuss the major events and developments of the continent of North America as a whole. It should avoid focusing solely on events pertaining to only one country, which receive proper attention in the history articles of the respective countries. Events such as the American Civil War should only receive brief mentions and descriptions unless there is an effect on other countries.

Highlights of the article should include expansion of the United States, the Mexican-American War, border conflicts between Canada and the United States, developments of trade between the countries, the gradual interconnection and globalization of the continent, such as through NAFTA, and immigration.

My contributions will mostly focus on histories of the main 3 modern countries of North America: Canada, the United States, and Mexico. Of course, North America can also encompass Central/Latin America and the Caribbeans. Outside of major events such as the Spanish-American War and imperialism, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and recent issues of drug trafficking, I know much less about these regions, and therefore assistance is helpful for those if they're to be included.

I'll contribute as I can in coming weeks, starting with the lead and then the areas needing most attention, with references along the way. Scarlettail (talk) 00:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

colonization text
The paragraph (below) at the start of colonization seems a bit awkward, of unnecessary detail, and ill-placed. It talks about what colonization is, and seems like it would be better: 1) left out entirely, as it sounds like an academic discussion on a subjective defintiion of colonization; 2) moved to the wiki page for colonization, since it is about colonization in general, and not this page specifically, or 3) moved to the daughter page about colonization. The "it is important to understand" bit is especially troubling since it is written in wiki's voice, and implies that the subjective definition (rather than an objective, general definition) that follows is universal fact being attested to by wiki, and that it is important for the understanding of the article. I don't find it to be either universal, important, or notable in the sense of this article. I'd recommend removal, to be honest, especially given only one questionably notable source.

"In order to understand what constitutes as successful colonization, it is important to understand what colonization means. Colonization refers to large-scale population movements, where the migrants maintain strong links with their or their ancestors' former country, gaining significant privileges over other inhabitants of the territory by such links. When colonization takes place under the protection of clearly colonial political structures, it may most handily be called settler colonialism. This often involves the settlers entirely dispossessing earlier inhabitants, or instituting legal and other structures which systematically disadvantage them.[21]" 12.11.127.253 (talk) 19:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

This article is very general, it gives a brief but specific overview of the History of North America, including Revolutions that took place. The information is not biased and most of it comes from books and academic journals. The links in the citations do work, they lead to online academic journals and encyclopedias. Everything mentioned in the article is relevant to the topic and leads to the proper description of the History of North America. 0621Amandag (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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