Talk:History of Saint Paul, Minnesota

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Although this article is nice, it is of a little lower importance IMHO than the corresponding Minneapolis one, and also this has not passed as a GA; I'd say it falls just outside the scope of this release. It will be considered for future releases. Walkerma (talk) 04:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Observation: discussion that should be expanded
I was noticing how terse the Early settlement and Early boom years sections are and noticing that these sections are missing some really interesting aspects of the town's early history. A quote about the streets of the town in the 1840s:

"[One would see] the blankets and painted faces of Indians, and the red sashes and mocassins of French voyageurs and half-breeds, greatly predominating over the less picturesque costume of the Anglo-American race."

- Governor Alexander Ramsey, 1853

Some of the aspects that IMHO should be discussed more are the following:
 * The fact that Saint Paul's early settlers were largely Métis (the article vaguely implies this by mentioning Selkirk but, frankly, most readers would have no idea about any of that). St. Paul maintained this mixed race character more than and longer than most of the major communities in the mid 1800s.
 * The role of the Roman Catholic Church. Because of the Métis and other francophones Catholic influence was very strong in the town even after Prostestantism became dominant in most other "white" communities in the area.
 * The fact that the town became a major steamboat landing because it was the point furthest north on the Mississippi that steamboats could land conveniently. This really is the major reason the town developed so rapidly.
 * The role of the Red River Trails in the early economy.
 * 1856 is an especially key year to mention. That year the Mississippi communities had a massive tourist boom with the city's hotels registering 28,000 people, compared to the town's population of perhaps 6000-8000 (see Williams, A history of the city of Saint Paul to 1875, p. 365). According to Williams so much new construction was completed that year that the town began to look like a city instead of just a pioneer town.

--Mcorazao (talk) 15:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Language issues Questionable POV in spots, non-standard use of commas, whole section duplicated.130.19.32.235 (talk) 20:27, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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