Talk:History of Siberia

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Nice article. Can we have a word about Balhae? -- Ghirla -трёп-  14:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for restatement of the intro. I had no idea what to write there. :) Uhm, it's the 1st time I've heard about Balhae. Were they important for Siberian history? I need time to read about them and to understand. :) --Ъыь (mailbox) 20:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Obviously the same town is called Isker on some pages, and Qashliq on others. I also have read that another name of the same town was "Sibir" (hence Siberia and Siberian Khanate)Vitoldus44 23:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Haha. No mention of the archipelago. No doubt editors have tried to put it in, only to be removed by the current writers of this quite-soviet friendly article.68.251.149.248 01:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This will be an honour to you, anonymous, that I reply. 1) Do not accuse others in sovied-friendliness until you know the people. 2) The remarks that I deleted were POV with no facts in the base (one of them was like "camps were made in Siberia because it is impossible to survive here.") --Ъыь (mailbox) 17:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Emigration Figures
I found some interesting figures of Russian Yearbook 1914 which could be included in the main article. Here it is as whole:

With regard to emigration from European Russia to Siberia the only information available is that of the Emigrants board, which is far from complete.

The following are the published figures since 1896. In the fourteen years 2.920.626 peasants emigrated to the Asian parts of (Russian) Empire; on an average 177.024 per annum (from 1896 to 1905), since then in a greatly increased proportion. The figures shows a distinction between the emigrants proper and the khokodi (forerunners) who are men sent before by the emigrants to decide on suitable spots of land.


 * 1896 178.697 emigrants 11.910 khodoki total 190.607
 * 1897 68.896 emigrants 17.780  khodoki total 86.676
 * 1898 148.314 emigrants 54.403 khodoki total 202.720 of which 15.486 returned
 * 1899 170.136 emigrants 53.073 khodoki total 223.209 of which 15.649 returned
 * 1900 166.266 emigrants 53.017 khodoki total 219.283 of which 33.846 returned
 * 1901 89.088 emigrants 31.161  khodoki total 120.249 of which 23.637 returned
 * 1902 81.921 emigrants 29.009  khodoki total 110.930 of which 16.925 returned
 * 1903 85.824 emigrants 29.012  khodoki total 114.836 of which 9.471  returned
 * 1904 40.001 emigrants 6.703   khodoki total 46.732  of which 4.152  returned
 * 1905 38.750 emigrants 5.269   khodoki total 44.018  of which 3.795  returned
 * 1906 141.294 emigrants 77.584 khodoki total 218.879 of which 6.158  returned
 * 1907 427.339 emigrants 145.240 khodoki total 572.579 of which 27.195 returned
 * 1908 664.777 emigrants 94.035 khodoki total 758.812 of which 37.882 returned
 * 1909 619.320 emigrants 88.143 khodoki total 707.463 of which 82.287 returned
 * 1910 316.163 emigrants 36.787 khodoki total 352.950 of which 114.893 returned
 * 1911 189.791 emigrants 36.271 khodoki total 226.062 of which 116.308 returned
 * 1912 201.027 emigrants 58.558 khodoki total 259.585 of which 98.388 returned

There was an increase in 1912 of 33.523 over 1911, principally in the number of khodaki, who contribute 22.287 towards the increase. There was a stronger movement towards Siberia, and less towards Asiatic Russia, which suffered from famine in 1911. There was a marked increase of emigrants to the Semiriechensk Province in 1912. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.175.156 (talk) 16:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Samoyeds & metals

 * "The Yeniseians were followed by the Uralic Samoyedes, who (…) are credited with leaving behind the very numerous remains dating from the Bronze Age which are scattered all over southern Siberia. Iron was unknown to them, but they excelled in bronze, silver, and gold work."

The word for "iron" is reconstructable all the way to Proto-Samoyedic (*wesä). Something doesn't add up here. A case of confusing linguistic and ethnic identity? -- Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 12:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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== The truth unfound

When people found suberian under the ice. The truth is still frozen and soaking again underbthe ice and waiting to be heard and warmed with attention. 2601:480:C300:E010:472:EDA8:F9:A00B (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2023 (UTC)