Talk:History of Somalia

Mahdists
I usually stick to stylistic changes (which this article could really use IMHO), but I recently made what I believe to be a factual correction. I changed "anti-Mahdist revolution" to "Mahdist revolution". Please revert if I am mistaken.

Merge?
I think this article and its information should be merged with the "Somalia" article...each one has a some facts the other doesn't, but a lot of it is repetitve. The information of the two would make a lot more sense together--69.66.240.245 01:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The Ogaden
the statement that the allies jointly awarded the ogaden to Ethopia is misleading. that decison only involved Britain.They wanted to include the region with the rest of somalia but were dissuaded from it by the dplomatic efforts of Empror Haile Salasie. He even went as far as to claim the rest of somalia as being part of ethiopia.

Somali organization names?
can anyone provide full names (with English translation) of the mass organizations of the Barre period? Such as XGUSS, UDHIS, UDKS, XUSS, etc.? --Soman 21:38, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

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Intro
Is the new intro sufficient to warrant removing the 'context' tag at the top? Wesley 04:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Removing the Arabic spelling
I removed the Arabic spelling of the word Somali because the vast majority of Somalis do not speak Arabic, though Arabic along with Somali are "official" languages. It is official restrictly to please the Arabic League, which Somalia is a member. Soomaali Nov., 15, 2005


 * Actually a large amount of somalis do speak arabic and almost all Somalis know the arabic text because of the Quran. In Somalia, the early life of a youngster basicialy involves the studying of the Quran and the the Hadiths and most do this while learning arabic. not mention that there is a sizeable portion of the Somali population on earth (total Somali population) live in arab countries due tot he civil war.


 * The Somali language is related to Arabic, as are ALL languages in that area. It is also related to Italian, Sicilian, Amharic and Maltese, plus lots more. Don't forget the Greek elements as well. There is not enough history of the language, let alone history that presents Somalia as being part of the Eastern Mediterraenean/historical Persian Empire rather than as some sort of nebulous "Africa."JBDay 19:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Being Muslim and so studying Islam and reading the Quran and Hadiths doesn't mean that all the Somali's know how to speak arab, understand yes. Some do speak it so do some speak English French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Ethiopian, Eretrian, India, Chinese, Russian, extra, extra, extra.... so does it mean he/she should put the spell of Somali in all these language just because the Somali's speak it or live in these countries. AND NOT TO MENTION the population of the Somali people that live in arab countries due to the civil war are much much smaller compared to European countries, the US, Australia and other countries, and let's not forget the Ogaden.PS Somali's are leaving arab countries because of the unjust and low job opportunities, pay, education, houses, property owning, extra.

Somails
Aren't they arabs? Part of Arab union aren't they —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmac800 (talk • contribs)

Somalis are not Arab. Being Muslim does not an Arab make, sir (or madam).

what do you mean arabs, Somalis are indigenous people to that land, not arabs, Somalis are Somalis.

The arab league is just a name of a club it does not mean that every in that clude is an arab. The same with the European Union not everyone in the European Union is from Europe take Israel for example and Turkey.

If the America were to join the arab league would they become arabs. The answer is no they would be Americans in the arab league, the same with Somalia. The purpose of it was to make diplomacy between Somalia and the rest of the arab countries go smoother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.233.126 (talk) 23:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Date standard
There are several instances of (Month Day, Year) and several instances of (Day Month Year). They need to all be one format for ease of reference. --ZsinjTalk 08:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Grammar stuff
"In the late 14th century and early 15th century, Emperor Dawit I took measures against Yeshaq I, came to the throne and launched a war against the Medieval kingdom of Adal (roughly contemporaneous with modern day Somaliland), a tributary kingdom that revolted and whose raids were disrupting rule in adjacent areas. "

This sentence is so badly written I don't what is going on. Emperor Dawit I of WHAT took measures against Yeshaq I of what? and WHO came to the throne? Where is Adal?

You can never assume the people reading the article will make the same assumptions you are making. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs) 20:59, 15 June 2006

Time to split this article up?
As it currently reads (& has read for a long time now), over three-fourths of this article covers the history of Somalia since 1970, & about half of the total details General Said Barre's rule. Further, this article is way too long to the point of being unwieldly; I gave up trying to work on it 18 months ago. For these reasons, I suggest that remove much of the section that discuss the General's 10 years in power be moved to its own article, & replace that material with a summary. -- llywrch 05:33, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Because of this, I have marked the article as requiring cleanup, as I have no idea on how to split it but know it must be done. 216.185.252.80 (talk) 01:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I added the split template to this article, hopefully something will come from it. Charliehorse55 (talk) 01:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahmad Gragn's viciousness
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 * Regrouped Muslim armies with Ottoman support and arms marched into Ethiopia employing scorched earth tactics and slaughtered any Ethiopian that refused to convert from Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity to Islam.

A casual reading of the primary source for this part of Ahmad Gragn's career, Sihab ad-Din Ahmad bin 'Abd al-Qader, Futuh al-Habasa (translated by Paul Lester Stenhouse as The conquest of Ethiopia, with annotations by Richard Pankhurst [Hollywood: Tsehai, 2003] ISBN 0972317252) will reveal many examples of these actions. Written by a sympathetic Muslim, this history details the looting & burning of churches, & the execution of Christians (or their enslavement). In short, his acts were but one chapter in the religiously-motivated violence between Christians & Muslims in this part of Africa that has occured over the last several centuries.) I could document his acts in this article, but Ahmad Gragn's actions are tangential to this article, & I am in the process of writing a new version of the article on this important Muslim personage based on this book. -- llywrch 19:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

The treaties with Italy (1889-91)
In 1885 Somalia was commonly considered under German influence. Italy, heir of the long Genoese and Venetian colonial experience, signed by its emissary (Vincenzo Filonardi) following treaties in Somalia: on February 8, 1889 with the Sultan of Hobyo; on April 7, 1889 with the Sultan of Majeerteen; on March 24, 1891 with the chiefs of Mogadishu. Somalia was (and is)a strategic territory to control the sea routes between the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

The decisive battle in WWII.
The decisive battle in Somalia in WWII took place at Gelib (Juba River) on February 22-24, 1941. The British were supported by war ships in the Indian Ocean, among them the aircraft-carrier "Hermes". The British defeated the Italians and took Mogadishu on February 27.

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Why is all somali history surrbegin and end with religion?
every post about somali centers around islam this christians this etc. There must have been some history besides Islam right?

19th century Mogadishu
- such a great picture - from Commons. Wizzy… &#9742; 11:46, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's actually an illustration of one nomadic area of Old Mogadishu in the 19th century. The Almnara Tower of the former Sultanate of Mogadishu can be seen in the background. Middayexpress (talk) 15:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Middle Ages & Somali Republic
Should we create new article such as Somalia in the Middle Ages and History of the Somali republic instead of having sections of large text while keeping articles on each kingdom and sultanate? AcidSnow (talk) 21:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The Somali Republic is itself an historical polity and covered on that linked page. The territory of present-day Somalia during the Middle Ages is likewise discussed on Somali aristocratic and court titles; each kingdom and sultanate from the period is noted there. However, the Land of Punt connection is not mentioned, though Somalia has traditionally been considered by many scholars as one of a handful of likely locations of the ancient kingdom (e.g. Abdel Monem A. H. Sayed of the University of Alexandria ). Middayexpress (talk) 14:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC

Omani rule
Moved here. Middayexpress (talk) 20:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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Somalia
Somalia had about 3 wars in a year 2604:3D08:607B:4400:8544:5F1E:217E:40E5 (talk) 02:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Tyjii 192.145.174.35 (talk) 12:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * somalia is acountry who love islam religion 192.145.174.35 (talk) 12:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Mushkilada somalia
Allow soamalia cadowga kala geynayo naga haay 1. Somalia cidna uma maqno ceelna uma qodno (Allah mooye) 2.somalia waxey toosi kartaa markay cadawgeda katashato iyo markey aan uwada tashano cadawga waddankena damaca ka ga juro. 3.xagga dhaqalaha iyo xagga siyaasada lee kagu mashquulsnyahay 197.220.91.58 (talk) 13:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)