Talk:History of Tottenham Hotspur F.C./GA1

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The club was formed as Hotspur F.C. by a group of schoolboys, and it was renamed Tottenham Hotspur F.C. in 1884.  - the run on "and" is a bit jarring here....


 * NB: Don't use bold outside the lead section.


 * What suburbs are Willoughby Lane and Northumberland Road in? Not made clear..
 * , suburbs? I guess you are referring to the London Borough now, which is London Borough of Haringey. But, back then it was Municipal Borough of Tottenham part of Middlesex. Govvy (talk) 09:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Err, no, suburb, like "Walthamstow", "Ealing" or whatever. I assume they are all in Tottenham? I have not been to this part of North London....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:35, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * They are both in Tottenham. Northumberland Park is to the north of White Hart Lane, and Willoughby Lane joins Northumberland Park on its east. Hzh (talk) 12:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Tottenham now mentioned. Hzh (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * He also found new premises for the club after the boys were evicted from Percy House in 1884 for misdemeanours, first at 1 Dorset Villa on Northumberland Road where they stayed for two years, then to the Red House on High Road after they were again asked to leave, this time for playing cards in church - should there be a colon after misdemeanours?
 * Done. Hzh (talk) 12:43, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Any idea when "spurs" became a popular nickname? (obvious I know but...)
 * No idea, but I can add it if I find any source for that. However, we do know that a spur (the metal thing on boots rather than on cockerel) was used as an emblem for Tottenham Hotspur in 1900. (Spur is incidentally used in the logo for San Antonio Spurs). Hzh (talk) 12:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 *  The publicity also brought on board two individuals who would later run the club, Charles Roberts and a local businessman John Oliver who helped fund the club - reword so the word "club" is used only once.
 * Done. Hzh (talk) 12:59, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 *  In late 1912, Peter McWilliam was appointed manager and he would be manager for Spurs in two separate periods, both interrupted by world wars - avoid two "managers" in the one sentence and run on "and" not great...
 * Reworded and rearranged. Hzh (talk) 13:17, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 *  The rivalry begun six years earlier, when Arsenal's relocated from Plumstead to Highbury, a move opposed by Tottenham, Clapton Orient as well as Chelsea. - why "Arsenal's"?
 * I took the 's off the end of Arsenal there. Govvy (talk) 09:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 *  The White Hart Lane site, actually located behind Tottenham High Road, was a nursery owned by the brewery chain Charringtons. - why "actually" here?
 * It's because White Hart Lane is not located on White Hart Lane. White Hart Lane (the road) is I think about 200 yards from White Hart Lane (the old stadium). No one is quite sure why White Hart Lane (the stadium) is so named. Hzh (talk) 11:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ok. Yeah that makes sense on a re-read Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 *  The club initially leased the ground from Charringtons, later in 1905, after issuing shares towards the cost of purchase, it bought the freehold for £8,900 and a further £2,600 for a piece of land at the northern end so that the club may develop the ground - this sentence needs splitting.
 * Reworded. Hzh (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 *  and he left as manager a year later on 20 July 1908.[ - the "as manager" is redundant and can be removed...
 * Done. Hzh (talk) 00:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Overall a good read - not too much to fix, a few tags etc. Well balanced. Am trying to give it a big as shove as possible towards FAC....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Pass or Fail: - great, a nice comprehensive read. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)