Talk:History of Toulouse

Volcae Tectosages
"In the 3rd century BC there came, from Belgium or southern Germany, a Celtic Gallic tribe called the Volcae Tectosages, the first Indo-Europeans to appear in the region. They settled in Tolosa and interbred with the local people..." All the mentions of the Volcae Tectosages in Caesar's Gallic War put them in the east of Gaul, nowhere near Tolosa. I'm putting this excised sentence here, for anyone to put back if they can find a reference connecting this tribe with Tolosa. Wetman 01:12, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * There are so many references that it is impossible to list. In France, it is such a well known fact, it's like saying that the Iberians were in Spain. It is the first time I hear someone saying the opposite. Plus I think the sentence itself answers your question: they indeed were in the east of Gaul (Belgium, Germany), but then moved to southern Gaul. Cesar most often referred to gallic people in a narrow way, citing the name of their local oppidum (town) as their name, so the Volcae Tectosages are always called Tolosates by him. He did not have the scientific appraoch of making larger categorizations as we do today. I think it is modern scientists who can determine that Tolosates were indeed Volcae Tectosages, notably by studying coins, etc.


 * Anyway, among thousands of other sources (mostly in French I'm afraid), here is one excellent source (in French): http://www.occitania.fr/hist/origin/celte/detail/dr4.htm


 * According to them, the Volcae divided in two groups, the Tectosages near Toulouse, and the Arécomiques near Nimes. They also say that one group of Volcae Tectosages settled across the Rhine in Germania (maybe the one you read about?), and later settled in the Danube valley, then they fought in Greece, where they captured Delphi. This created confusions among historians, and some enthusiastic 19th century historians were commenting on Toulouse people conquering Delphi!! But modern historians reckon the Volcae Tectosages from Toulouse never left Toulouse, and are not the same as the Volcae Tectosages that conquered Delphi.


 * I put back the sentence. Hardouin 21:21, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Gothic?
Why systematically replacing the word Germanic with the word Gothic? Gothic people are just a subset of Germanic people after all. The majority of people is quite familiar with the word Germanic, but I fear that many people may not know the word Gothic, or may simply confuse it with the Gothic architecture of cathedrals, or even the "Gothic" subculture of modern teenagers in Europe!! I think we should always leave the terms that are the most generic and that anyone can understand. I am in favor of reverting to Germanic, but I will wait for comments before doing so.

Also, I wonder why deleting the fact that the kings of Castile and present-day Spain descend from the Visigoths. It helped showing the long-term trends of European history. I remind people that the last Visigoth rulers took refuge in Asturias during the Arab conquest, then were rulers of Asturias, then kings of Leon, then kings of Castile, then ultimately kings of Spain. King Juan Carlos can trace back his ancestry to the Visigoth rulers. Hardouin 22:01, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Late Middle Ages and beyond
Hello, I am the author of the site http://www.corendal.com. I have completed the Middle Age part with the content of my site, which is also available on the French wikipedia. Edits are welcome, my English is not the best.

I like the content of the first paragraphs, up until the 11th century. However, I find these paragraphs a bit too long, I'd like to split them in smaller pieces. That's what I did in my site, with far less details I admit. I am not a good judge as I am certainly vested in my work, so I'll let outsiders do it if they feel the need. Tdanard

Toulouse in the 19th and 20th centuries
Did nothing interesting happen in Toulouse between 1814 and 2001? Nothing between those dates is mentioned in the article. --Angr/undefined 16:50, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The article is a work in progress. I wrote everything from beginning to year 1000 after Christ. Then another user added info for period 1000-1800, although there is still more to say about this period. For 1800 till 2000, info will have to be added. Come back in the months and years to come. Hardouin 12:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The French version says that industrialization only began in Toulouse in durning the Great War. There is some interesting stuff there about the beginning of their aero-industry in the 20's. I would assume that as a major river-city competition form the rail network was unkind to Toulouse and the history kind of passed it by.
 * Back-of-the-envelope: Between 1801 and 1911 Toulouse's population grew at an annualized rate of 0.99% (this drops to 0.35%! if you start from 1861). Compare this to Paris ~ 1.9%, Marseille ~ 1.4%, Lyon ~ 1.5%, Lille ~1.2%, Strassberg ~ 1.2%, Mülhausen ~ 2.4%, Nancy ~ 1.3%, Nantes 0.72%, Bordeaux ~ 0.95%, Montpellier ~ 0.82%.  72.49.112.235 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 06:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Kingdom of Aquitaine
The section Carolingian Franks and Kingdom of Aquitaine is very long and too detailed for a general article on the history of Toulouse. The content of the section is mainly about the Kingdom of Aquitaine. I was quite surprised there isn't already a separate article on the Kingdom of Aquitaine. It is usually considered a highly significant topic in French history with whole books devoted to the subject. On Wikipedia, it seems there is a demand for such an article judging by how often the Kingdom of Aquitaine is already mentioned elsewhere and the redlinks to Kingdom of Aquitaine.

I think the existing section in this article could be usefully shortened and the original content moved into a separate Kingdom of Aquitaine article, putting a link at the top of the section. It's such a notable topic, I think it really deserves its own article. What do other editors think? If anyone is feeling bold, please create a stub article (I can't) and I'll fill it out. 85.94.166.25 (talk) 19:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The fear of repression obliged the notabilities to exile, or to convert themselves?
Out of curiosity, was this article google translated from the French version and then copy-pasted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.107.81.13 (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Visigothic Kingdom of Tolosa
There is info at the AfC that could be merged here. If done, ping me and I will look at a history merge. Dloh cierekim  08:22, 3 January 2014 (UTC)